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HeralFacker | 1 year ago

Converting to a for-profit changes the tax status of donations. It also voids plausibility for Fair Use exemptions.

I can see large copyright holders lining up with takedowns demanding they revise their originating datasets since there will now be a clear-cut commercial use without license.

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zmgsabst|1 year ago

I hope I can join in, as a consumer, because there’s a difference between using the IP I contribute to conversations for a non-profit and a commercial enterprise.

codewench|1 year ago

I suspect that if you have ever posted copyrightable material online, you will have valid cause to sue them, as they very obviously have incorporated your work for commercial gain. That said, I unfortunately put your chances of winning in court very low.

shakna|1 year ago

A non-profit entity will continue to exist. Likely for the reasons you stated.

bbor|1 year ago

Any reasonable court would see right through “well we trained it for the public good, but only we can use it directly”. That’s not really a legal loophole as much as an arrogant ploy. IMO, IANAL

lewhoo|1 year ago

> It also voids plausibility for Fair Use exemptions. I can see large copyright holders lining up with takedowns

I thought so for a moment but then again Meta, Anthropic (I just checked and they have a "for profit and public benefit" status whatever that means), Google or that Musk's thing aren't non-profits, are they ? There are lawsuits in motion for sure but with how it stands today I think ai gets off the hook.

__loam|1 year ago

Doesn't make it morally or ethically okay