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MisterDizzy | 1 year ago

This is the main difference in politics, as far as I can tell: Some people push for things that seem really compassionate and intuitively good and right, but actually make the problem a lot worse. But to argue this is almost always futile because all most people seem able to absorb is that you're disagreeing with their intuitively compassionate position, not that you're trying to posit a solution that actually functions, so in their eyes you're an existential threat to them.

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SV_BubbleTime|1 year ago

> “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock

Veliladon|1 year ago

A robber baron’s cupidity may at some point be satiated? That’s why check notes billionaires keep increasing their share of total wealth year on year?

01100011|1 year ago

There are ideologues and there are pragmatists. Partisans are, to varying degrees, ideologues who see the world not as it is but how it must be based upon their presuppositions.

Ideologies gave us freedom, democracy, and nearly every genocide. They can be useful, to a degree, but like any model they break down and cause problems when taken to the extreme.

lbhdc|1 year ago

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

mc32|1 year ago

People dislike actual data so much, in this case they have flagged the item because it goes counter to their narrative.

doctorpangloss|1 year ago

> not that you're trying to posit a solution that actually functions

Give me an example of a "solution that actually functions," to any problem you know a lot about, during a period of high inflation.

SV_BubbleTime|1 year ago

Tariffs on imports.

I saw FIRST HAND that overnight we went from only quoting in China and Taiwan, to quoting and getting deals in USA.

I was writing the quotes, I was approving them. It turned right back around in 2021.

beaglessss|1 year ago

Legalizing floating market exchange rates.

nullindividual|1 year ago

> actually make the problem a lot worse

You need to get rid of the actual problem: Capitalism

The context of all these good/bad arguments is that they're good/bad solutions under Capitalism.

gadflyinyoureye|1 year ago

With what shall we replace it? Communism doesn’t work. It’s so hard to do that it has supposedly never been tried.