[webdevladder]

As a Svelte user this argument rings hollow. You can't judge frontend by React and the way it's badly used.

[afavour]

> You can't judge frontend by React and the way it's badly used.

IMO you can because it’s the vast majority of webapp usage today. I’m also a heavy Svelte user and I love it but front end web dev is practically a React monoculture so it makes sense to think about it when evaluating options.

I’m not saying it isn’t a problem inherent in web components, it is. But using it as a reason to not adopt web components runs contrary to the logic the vast majority of the industry currently uses. Perfect as the enemy of good and all that.

[webdevladder]

React is irrelevant for me and my users. This is not an argument in favor of web components over Svelte. Adopting web components would mean an objectively worse UX for my users - for example requiring them to enable JS.

You won't get a Svelte to look past the flaws of web components by saying "React is bad".

[azemetre]

You absolutely can judge tools by how they are used, especially if said tool encourages poor usage.

[throwawayha]

Except, any beginner can make a mess with anything. Methodologies and frameworks evolve, but not all create any for beginners.

[webdevladder]

You can judge React, but like I said, not frontend. You're responding to an argument I didn't make.