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Show HN: 73,530 free book summaries in 40 languages (with paid audio)

39 points| jazz3020 | 1 year ago |sobrief.com

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[+] janice1999|1 year ago|reply
I expected the books to be public domain, but no, it's just random (?) books from many different publishers. I hope you have a good legal team...
[+] rockemsockem|1 year ago|reply
Did you read the title or site? It says they're summaries which are definitely fair use.

Now whether they're interesting or not is another question.....

[+] rurp|1 year ago|reply
I tried this with a non-fiction book I read recently and it honestly feels like a pretty generic LLM output. The summary roughly follows the text, but in many spots takes things out of context to a degree that the summary would be very misleading to anyone who hadn't already read the book.

The quotes at the start of each section were some of the worst offenders. I really have no idea what the first quote was referring to. It didn't relate to any of the themes of the book, or any of the following summary points, and I don't remember reading that line at all; it just seemed totally out of place.

I'm not really sure what I would use this service for. When I'm interested in a book that I haven't read it's generally the overarching concepts and takeaways that I want to know, not a spotty outline of the different sections of text. Perhaps students who want to skim through some assigned reading would find this useful. I'm also not that interested in Blinkist so I might not be the target audience here.

[+] jazz3020|1 year ago|reply
Hmm, which book was it? I can check. It is designed to complement the original work by allowing you to preview/review books before/after reading them, not to replace the need to read the original book.
[+] braza|1 year ago|reply
As an ex-Blinkist I think the work here it's quite impressive.

From what I found based in some titles that I have read in the past and in comparison with Blinkist:

- The summaries here feels that has more "meat in the bone" in terms of bring complex ideas and have more bullet points

- Maybe it's about the prompting, but the language used you can definitely know that is generated by an LLM

- Having the direct quotes from the book after an initial definition of the theme of a chapter it's good

- The whole experience with the LLM kicking in on the fly, makes the whole experience quite bad; maybe you should consider have that pre-stored in some place

Honestly, I think your product it's 85% of theirs (and this is not something bad).

The pricing USD 79 for a lifetime it's OK, but without giving some kind of access or even make some library available it's quite hard to see someone paying for a library that you do not know the books that is in there.

From the legal perspective, I think you might be in some hot water since some publishers can dispute the fair use due to the fact that you're monetizing part of their content.

[+] jazz3020|1 year ago|reply
Okay, I really appreciate the feedback! Agree on the "meat in the bone," quotes, and LLM-like writing style (which is somewhat intended).

On-the-fly/cache: Yeah, I agree. We're only four months old—the number of on-the-fly summaries will go down significantly over time.

85%: What could make it 100%?

Pricing: I think that's fair. But considering Blinkist charges for $100+ for yearly, the $80 lifetime deal isn't that bad.

Legal: We actually drive a decent amount of traffic to Amazon, Audible, and Kindle. We're hoping to partner with the publishers and authors in the future whether in the form of revenue sharing or licsening.

[+] jazz3020|1 year ago|reply
OP here—happy to answer any questions! We’ve been working really hard since writing the first line of code 4 months ago.
[+] giancarlostoro|1 year ago|reply
As others already clarified that it is using an LLM do you allow users to report issues with summaries? I would think this might be important.
[+] ubggret|1 year ago|reply
4 months, 73k summaries, 0 mentions of AI on the website/in the FAQ.

How are you doing it?

[+] botro|1 year ago|reply
Which LLM is used for the book summaries and which TTS for the audio?
[+] irq-1|1 year ago|reply
> Please wait for the current search to finish.

This message modal appeared when I tried to select a book. I'm sure you know that's not the user experience anyone wants.

[+] lantern_oil|1 year ago|reply
Hello and great site! Just a note that the "business" isn't spelt correctly. I'm enjoying it ATM. Tks.
[+] fuddle|1 year ago|reply
Do you purchase the book before making a summary? How does that work?
[+] jazz3020|1 year ago|reply
Yes, we try to borrow as often as possible and buy when necessary
[+] lofaszvanitt|1 year ago|reply
This is why no one buys books. Books are too long, too broad, the interface of books is the same since 868 CE and 90% of the text is just filler. Kindle brought some innovation into this space, but it's UI and support tools are still ridiculously cro magnon like.

The invisible hand that somehow forces authors to bloat their 3 paragraph gist into 200 pages kills the whole industry. I don't care if a book is only 15 pages long and costs $10, just leave the filler out or separate it with a blank page, then could come the 200 page long bs.

[+] braza|1 year ago|reply
I used to buy books personal development, management and productivity books and a very sad transition in that space in the last 15 years is that most of the time the author needs to used a lot of anecdotes and make a narrative instead to do directly do the point.

I used to call that as a "Talebnization" of business/management writing that everyone uses more or less the same format to convey a idea: - Some random quote to support the point

- 1 paragraph with the point

- 1 or 2 anecdotes or researched case about the point

- Some broad cherry-picked statistic to bring some rigor

- A success case due to the point

- Closing thoughts without any counterpoint, critique, or presence of any downside in the main point of the chapter.

Do that for 20 chapters and you have a book.

[+] jazz3020|1 year ago|reply
I have mixed feelings. I generally agree—the industry tends to incentivize writers to fill a certain amount of space, much like college essays. However, there are quite a few books I've enjoyed in their entirety, discovering new insights when re-reading them.
[+] mdhb|1 year ago|reply
Thanks, I hate it and this is exactly the kind of thing I fear is ruining the internet.
[+] jazz3020|1 year ago|reply
How would this ruin the internet?
[+] yawnxyz|1 year ago|reply
this doesn't prevent you from reading the books though?