[jogjayr]

Outside of the places where money is being made, money is not being made.

Edit: but even when money is being made, the athletes don't get it.

[jgalt212]

I'm trying to frame the problem--not say there isn't a problem. Athletes is too broad a term. You're engaging in tautologies.

[jogjayr]

Sorry it sounded like you were saying there isn't a problem because you said

> there is no real wage theft occurring

I know you qualified it with

> Outside of top men's basketball and football programs

But that was my point. Where no one's making money, no one's making money.

[LargeWu]

No, but many of them are getting a free or discounted education. Is that not something of value?

[jogjayr]

It's non-zero value, but we can't say it's the market-clearing price for their services. And anecdotally the quality of that education is compromised.

Student-athletes in the serious football and basketball programs spend a lot of their time at practice. During the season, travel to away games eats up much of their free time. They're "encouraged" to take only easy courses. There are reports of grading corruption so their GPA is high enough to remain eligible to play.