[lmihaig]

People get this very wrong, CERN is extremely underfunded. People really don't understand how expensive running the accelerators is and most of the budget goes to that. Last years they even had to run for less months than expected because they couldn't afford the rising energy prices.

The buildings are old, the offices suck, you don't even get free coffee and they pay less than the norm in Switzerland. But they have some of the top minds working on very specific and interesting systems, dealing with problems you'd never encounter anywhere else.

I would like to yap more about the current management and their push/reliance on enterprise solutions but to cut it short I really do think cern is a net contributor to open science and they deserve more funding.