top | item 41735153

(no title)

10xalphadev | 1 year ago

Ah, another privacy-oriented phone project. As if the Pine-, Libre-, Jolla-, Neo900- etc. etc. endeavours weren't successful enough.

discuss

order

mmooss|1 year ago

I was wondering - what is the status of those projects?

And because they are (mostly?) open source, why not start with one of them?

Arch-TK|1 year ago

Neo900 is dead. Unfortunately. It was always on shaky ground (the nature of a hardware project) but what seems to have killed it was PayPal withholding its funds for long enough to take the wind out of key people's sails. PayPal just decided to abruptly lock out the project account one day after accruing a substantial number of down-payments, and refused to give the funds back for around a year. By the time some progress started being made again, the funds were no longer enough and the project was at that point based on seriously obsolete hardware (as opposed to the regular kind of obsolete most hardware projects have to work with).

finaard|1 year ago

The problem is the hardware, not the software. Also, what you want as a paranoid person is your baseband not part of the SoC running your computer - this project hear does that, Jolla and others are using standard Android SoCs.

Jolla added libhybris to make it easy to use Android hardware adaptations - which at that time was needed to get a phone out (ste, which the first Jolla phone was supposed to be based on, decided to get out of the phone chip business during the prototyping phase, and that was the last vendor offering proper Linux drivers). I never was much of a fan of that as you just pull in way too much uncontrollable crap - unfortunately it works good enough that a lot of other projects then also jumped on that, instead of reviving a focus of doing proper Linux drivers (something I was worried might happen when the libhybris development started).