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wantsanagent | 1 year ago

Imagine you've had an idea bouncing around in your head, or even an emotion, for a long time and you've never been able to express it. Then one day you push a button and a piece of art captures what you've been feeling perfectly.

It's not the craft that drives attachment in this case but the emotional resonance of something that you think should exist finally existing.

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changing1999|1 year ago

AI mentioned above is not at the level of capturing and expressing ideas or emotions beyond "a sad rock song about a breakup". Try guiding it to express any clearly formed musical idea.

Author's attachment is to a large degree based on the false notion that they somehow contributed to the creation process.

The generic, frigid, un-interesting "product" that is produced by said AI is why no one other than the prompter is moved by the result.

joshstrange|1 year ago

That’s just not true. I’ve used Suno to generate songs where I have provided all the lyrics. Those lyrics came from a combo of LLMs and my steering/direct edits and then I ran the lyrics through Suno multiple times until I got something I wanted.

I can agree that:

> "a sad rock song about a breakup"

Is probably not going to capture or express your ideas or emotions because you haven’t given it enough. In contrast, writing the lyrics or giving the model a ton more context can absolutely produce something that captures and expresses your ideas and emotions.

At the end of the day I don’t make music for the masses (hell, I’ve only generated a handful of final songs that I’ve liked) but the people I have made them for (or the ones just for me) have enjoyed them quite a bit.

I’m not a songwriter nor am I a musician and I never will be. That’s not where my skills lie and it’s not a skillset I want to learn and hone. AI/LLM tools give me the ability to express myself in a medium that previously was effectively impossible and it makes people I care about smile and that’s good enough for me.

jcims|1 year ago

This is a tad overwrought. There is a creative process, but it’s much more akin to simple producing rather than composing.

My point wasn’t to debate the merit of generated music, it was simply to highlight the effect I described.