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TheGlav | 1 year ago

Apple is the closest you get today. You can even pay a premium for it!

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BiteCode_dev|1 year ago

Given apple was part of PRISM and, you only pay premium for the pr.

aucisson_masque|1 year ago

I'm apple hater but you got to recognize they do better at privacy than Google.

If you care about the NSA, then you better not have any phone. Whatever it's a android, iphone, grapheneos, anything. Israel blowing up pagers is a proof that nothing is impossible to them.

But if you want to say fuck off to the big data harvester like Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and so on.. then apple isn't bad at all.

You just got to deal with the usual apple bullshit, no side loading, repairability, thunderbolt charger, no headphone jack, etc.

Terretta|1 year ago

OK, but still:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple–FBI_encryption_dispute

Apple's reaction to a number of such things has been to further enhance encryption.

They go to a good deal of trouble to make things they can't break. Look at the new cloud compute model they're introducing:

https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/

And if you've missed it, note the prior "verified contact" key exchange added to iMessages, as well as the "sorry we can't read your backups to help you recover your data" security added to iCloud (provided you only use devices up-to-date and opted in). This one is a customer service nightmare, they added it anyway.

All that said, this article is less interesting since (a) if your cell phone uses a telco, "they" know where you are, and where you've been, no Apple needed; and (b) unlike Apple segmenting your Maps directions to prevent themselves from knowing where you are going, Google's always been about your location.

lallysingh|1 year ago

You act like Google or Apple had a real choice in the matter. AFAICT, that was all court-ordered.

mathfailure|1 year ago

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blackeyeblitzar|1 year ago

Why? Apart from state sponsored violation of privacy, I think Apple does in fact provide the best privacy protections. I’m also happy they don’t do bizarre things like Android sometimes does, for example preventing you from taking screenshots on your own device because an app can do that on Android.

However, I dislike Apple for their extortionist approach to defending the App Store duopoly, browser access, moderation/censorship on apps, etc.

akimbostrawman|1 year ago

You can pay apple premium for a lot of things doesn't mean you actually get it tho. people really forgot PRISM that quickly...