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brm | 1 year ago

I mean you've also accurately described Pennsylvania...

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alephnerd|1 year ago

Pennsylvania has an HDI of 0.928 [0] (comparable to the United Kingdom and Luxembourg). Portugal has an HDI of 0.876 [1]

Median household income in Pennsylvania is approx $73,000 [2], but median household income of Portugal is below $20,000 [3]

Sure the US has plenty of problems, but it is absolutely one of the most developed large countries in the world.

The only other large (greater than 50 million population) countries with higher developmental indicators are the UK (barely) and Germany.

[0] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_terr...

[1] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_D...

[2] - https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/PA/INC110222

[3] - https://eco.sapo.pt/2023/01/13/rendimento-medio-das-familias...

steveBK123|1 year ago

American doomers generally underestimate how much better we have it than the rest of the developed world on just about every economic measure - income, wealth, employment, etc.

Like sure the EU, healthcare & education is cheap/free, but your taxes at the low end will are double to pay for that. And they pay nurses similar to what we pay fry cooks. Even higher pay places like London, UK pay 1/3 to 1/2 what you can make in NYC or SF for similar jobs.