[nurtbo]

Privacy laws actually work! Let’s pass more of them.

> Information gathered about you after the effective date of our updated Privacy Statement, November 27, 2024, will be shared with participating stores where you shop, *unless you live in California, North Dakota, or Vermont.* For PayPal customers in California, North Dakota, or Vermont, we’ll only share your information with those merchants if you tell us to do so

[tmpz22]

In 1999 the show writers of the West Wing accurately predicated this in an episode about the selection of a Supreme Court Judge:

"It's not just about abortion, it's about the next 20 years. In the '20s and '30s it was the role of government. '50s and '60s it was civil rights. The next two decades are going to be privacy. I'm talking about the Internet. I'm talking about cell phones. I'm talking about health records and who's gay and who's not. And moreover, in a country born on the will to be free, what could be more fundamental than this?"

- Sam Seaborn (Rob Lowe) West Wing (ep: The Short List) 1999

- We've seen massive breaches of EMR systems

- We've seen massive breeahes from dating apps (Grindr) outing Gay individuals

- None of these entities faced significant consequences for their actions and continue to operate with large amounts of profit.

- 2 years after this episode the Patriot Act was passed. We've failed on privacy so far.

[m463]

The government has failed the constituents.

Regulatory capture is still the highest ROI investment, and we should work on that.

[awkwardpotato]

There are so many beautiful quote I love from the West Wing... but this one stands out for me because of how (a decade off but) shockingly accurate it is.

[SturgeonsLaw]

Imagine if the real government was as competent and good faith as the West Wing government

[darknavi]

This is so open faced and gross. It reminds of someone talking about getting paid minimum wage. If you get paid minimum wage, what your employer is saying is, "I would pay you less if I was legally allowed to do so."

It also reminds me of State Farm's (auto/home insurance in the US) website with this link at the bottom:

> Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information (CA residents only)

[heavensteeth]

> If you get paid minimum wage, what your employer is saying is, "I would pay you less if I was legally allowed to do so."

Doesn't this apply to all pay rates? It's not like high-paying jobs are high-paying for the love in the employer's heart.

When does a wage stop being gross? 1c over minimum wage? $1 over?

[toomuchtodo]

Don’t get mad, get active. Keep cranking on the policy ratchet, progress and success is clearly possible.

[mrkramer]

That's what Disqus has at the bottom of every of their comments section[0]. I find it ridiculous.

[0] https://electricdusk.com/img/disqus-gdpr-violation-marketing...

[blackeyeblitzar]

I would like a tax relating to privacy violations to be retroactive in all these other states. It’s actually legal to apply a retroactive tax, so why not?

[seneca]

> If you get paid minimum wage, what your employer is saying is, "I would pay you less if I was legally allowed to do so."

The minimum wage is the government saying "if you produce less value than this arbitrary cut off, you aren't allowed to work".

[LegitShady]

you know what works better? delete your paypal account and dont use them as a service. I did this years ago and in fact have never missed not having one of these accounts. and since I'm not using paypal they're not sharing info on my to stores when i shop, whether my local laws allow it or not.

[OJFord]

They refuse to delete the account I never intentionally created (their scammy credit card checkout tactics when I had no other option) unless I provide them a bunch of data I've never previously given them in order to 'verify' my identity.

[rrix2]

I live in Oregon but they opted me out by default, perhaps because I have an old CA address in my list of old delivery addresses?

[guywithahat]

They also raise the bar of entry for companies, reducing competition. I don't use PayPal and won't use Venmo in stores because of this, however I certainly wouldn't be putting trust in more legislation solving this.

[davidlumley]

Can you explain what bar has been raised unless you were planning to sell PII as part of your business model?