[Happily2020]

Not to mention subsidised parking spaces. Free and even paid street parking is highly subsidised by the city and by other tax payers. There's also the environmental cost of not having that land be a park or nature and instead have it contribute to being an urban heat island with all its asphalt.

[looofooo0]

Healthcare cost also decline, and people become less sick because you have to walk some amount to get to the train.

[piyuv]

The air quality improving should also be a factor.

[shankr]

Although you fall sick more often in winter when using public transportation.

[finikytou]

in Paris (and pretty sure that applies to pretty much any big western city, new york for instance is worse in a few of the criterias ill reference) subway increase stress, frequent delays(if you have 2-3 train as part of your commute you will experience it daily), pollution down under is high, virus/covid transmission is high, pickpockets are everywhere if not worse, bedbug, pee smell, junkies. Id take a car any day.

[6510]

It has secretly become unrealistic to have cars in a city, we still do it but more out of tradition. You wouldn't build parks (tho that would be nice) 1 parked car, the road next to it and the second side walk take about as much space as an apartment and we stack those one on top of the other.

Something like this is quite hilarious if you think about it.

https://www.alamy.com/parking-in-the-courtyard-of-high-rise-...

It reminds me of grazing cows having 80 times as much space as people in some parts of my country.

[Nullabillity]

You don't have to build it like that. Where I live now, the parking lot is effectively the basement under the apartment buildings and playground. You'd barely interact with it unless you're driving.

[andrepd]

Absolutely. Next time you see a free parking spot mentally calculate the rent of ~10m² on that part of the city to understand how much of a subsidy that is. Then multiply by 50 parking spots in a street. Then think how many thousands there are all over the city...

[finikytou]

do you have free parking? cities are making money out of parking spots. a lot of money. so much than one would say they have an incentive to reduce parking space to increase price and reduce expenses

[eru]

Yes, though all of that is more of an argument in favour of dropping car subsidies, than an argument in favour of more rail subsidies.