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Nanoporous Graphene Could Outperform Best Desalination Techniques

73 points| pwg | 13 years ago |wateronline.com | reply

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[+] Scramblejams|13 years ago|reply
Impressive find. However, given that the toxicity of graphene is not well understood[1], shouldn't there be significant concern for now about using graphene in processes which involve contact with food products? It's easy to envision a scenario in which a microscopic chunk of the stuff breaks off and ends up in the air or your stomach. The article only hints at this, where it mentions "mechanical stability."

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_nanotube#Toxicity

[+] ChuckMcM|13 years ago|reply
"In their simulations, the scientists strengthened the nanopores by passivating, or shielding, each carbon atom at the pore edge with either hydrogen atoms or hydroxyl groups."

Filed under the heading, "If someone knew how to build this stuff in volume, boy would it be useful."

This is good follow on work to other micropore work with graphene but as far as I can tell its just a simulation which points to areas that might lead to useful products.

[+] DennisP|13 years ago|reply
Another cheap new desalination idea was recently presented at Google's Solve for X: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R63zYZZuRvQ#!

Instead of a fancy membrane it uses some nifty chemistry. Doesn't take much energy and the chemicals are in a closed loop.

[+] riledhel|13 years ago|reply
Thank you for the link. The McGinnis's talk was very interesting, but there are some other more just as good.
[+] WiseWeasel|13 years ago|reply
I wonder if that flow rate would be high enough to build this membrane into a drinking straw, so you could take a safe drink right out of the ocean with a cheap, compact device. This seems like it has the potential to revolutionize camping and survival in the near-term, and eventually the availability of clean water everywhere.
[+] confutio|13 years ago|reply
Wouldn't the water have to be sanitized first? It sounds as if it only filters sodium, not other dangerous particles.
[+] fpp|13 years ago|reply
There are already technologies beyond reverse osmosis in large scale industrial use (and I'm not referring to brine or similar high energy approaches)

Siemens has built a desalination plant in Singapore that works similar to dialysis (mimicking kidneys) and is using a fraction of the energy required for a comparable RO solutions (http://www.desalination.biz/news/print.asp?id=6008).

The key issue with all membrane / filter based desalination solutions still is the lifetime / service requirements of the filters.

[+] ajb|13 years ago|reply
I thought Reverse Osmosis was already close to its thermodynamic limit (in terms of efficiency)?
[+] ctdonath|13 years ago|reply
Estimated time to product?

Why not sooner?

[+] ctdonath|13 years ago|reply
This is an honest question. Millions would like such a product yesterday. I'd like to know how long it might take to market, and understand why it could not be done sooner.

Didn't expect such questions be downvoted on a business/product startup site.

[+] slug|13 years ago|reply
Considering that this is a molecular dynamics simulation that anyone could produce at home on their computer, with some patience, I assume it will be ready in a few years after their get their grant money.