[seestem]

Incentivising seeding is hard. Maybe cryptocurrencies can be useful here, but I understand not everyone likes them especially here on HN. In retrospect the ideal setup would have been if archiving was included into the core HTTP protocol.

[Cthulhu_]

Cryptocurrencies implies that people would pay / get paid for it... just pay the directly IA then, or your own servers. Cryptocurrencies imply someone's skimming off a lot for their own pockets.

[seestem]

I meant more like in bitcoin how the miners get paid for mining, or how validators are rewarded in proof of stake blockchains. This techniques can be used to incentivised seeders.

[usr1106]

Maybe someone can invent a proof of seeding protocol? So that would bring some good to the public instead of just burning energy. Don't ask me how it would work...

[nikisweeting]

Storj, Filecoin, etc. fill this gap but it's still really hard to earn enough to justify the effort at small scales.

[greenie_beans]

i'm doubtful that whatever crypto incentive that is offered will make up the cost for me to DIY this in my home. which is why crypto miners scale, making crypto a centralized system. i don't care what the latest white paper says, it is still controlled by few people and not decentralized. in the same way that the ussr replicated the centralization of american capitalism, crypto replicates the centralization of trust while marketed as something else.

[6footgeek]

Actually I think their wild ideas are contributing to this discussion.. I think your apparent hurt at this suggestion is a bit silly tbh.

Hear me out. I hadn't heard of the prior work you are raging about. But I am interested in decentralised tech - so, by this person mentioning their idea it got me interested to read further. Then you entered and went a bit madlad on them.. I'm not sure why when you could have just said "good question, here is everything we know about the effort to do exactly this" and then maybe that hacker would have been inspired to go read and maybe contribute. Just my 2 cents ;-)