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thebricklayr | 1 year ago

Agreed. Couldn’t black holes warp spacetime to the extent that there is no such place as “inside”? Time dilation is infinite at the event horizon, after all.

As you approach the event horizon, your frame of reference slows asymptotically to match that of the black hole while the universe around you fast-forwards toward heat death. I’d expect the hawking radiation coming out at you to blue shift the closer you got until it was so bright as to be indistinguishable from a white hole. You’d never cross the event horizon; you’d be disintegrated and blasted outward into the distant future as part of that hawking radiation.

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WantonQuantum|1 year ago

The time dilation at the event horizon is infinite for an external observer. It appears that the person falling into the black hole slows down and never passes the event horizon. They redshift until you can't see them anymore.

For the unfortunate person falling into the black hole, there is nothing special about the event horizon. The spacetime they experience is rotated (with respect to the external observer) in such a way that their "future" points toward the black hole.

In a very real sense, for external observers there isn't really an interior of the black hole. That "inside" spacetime is warped so much that it exists more in "the future" than the present.

Professor Brian Cox also says that from a string theory perspective there isn't really an inside of a black hole, it's just missing spacetime. I tried to find a reference for this but I couldn't find one. Perhaps in his book about black holes.

I'm no physicist so happy to be corrected on any of the above!

jiggawatts|1 year ago

> For the unfortunate person falling into the black hole, there is nothing special about the event horizon.

This is from a simplified model using black holes with infinite lifetime, which is non-physical. Almost all textbook Penrose diagrams use this invalid assumption and shouldn't be relied upon..

Fundamentally, external observers and infalling observers can't disagree on "what happens", just the timing of events. If external observers never see someone falling in, then they didn't fall in.

tsunamifury|1 year ago

You know string theory is now generally considered a large scale fraud perpetrated by cox to maintain funding right?