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dibyadarshan | 1 year ago

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Ad-free, compute intensive, non-CRUD, massively scaled, complex cheat moderation, infinite puzzles/analysis, educational (studies/tactics/openings explorer), etc. All this for free. I'm curious what's the best website in your opinion

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trod123|1 year ago

I could elaborate, but rather, let me ask you this instead since its more relevant.

What is the point of responding with any legitimate criticism when any potentially negative sentiment however mild, upfront, expressing disagreement, gets downvoted to the point where the mechanics of the website squelches the person and silences them (by purposeful intent).

Can you ever have any legitimate intelligent conversation after a participant has been harmed and effectively silenced in this way?

When you cannot speak freely, there can be no intelligent communications raising the bar objectively. The opposite occurs, and anything provided, even seemingly rational conversation falls after such a threat or action of violence, all conversation then falls into the gutter as a result of the added coercive cost imposed. You may contend that its not violence, but it meets the WHO definition for such which properly accounts for psychological torture and coercion (of which this is a common form).

It should go without saying, but you cannot have any intelligent conversation when those who embrace totalitarian methods prevent you from speaking (and yes these meet the criteria).

At the point this happens, regardless of valid criticism, or pointing out errors in methodology, it all dies on the vine, the communication is clear; you will be punished for disagreeing. That destructive behavior inevitably leads to ruin.

This is fairly basic stuff, in order to think and be intelligent, one must be able to risk being offensive. In order to learn something new, one must risk being offended.

When neither are possible because you or someone else muzzles any conversation expressing disagreement or corrosively add cost, even under such modest terms as here, the fallout is silent, yet devastating.

It might not seem like much, but the light goes out of the world as those with intelligence withdraw their support, and the natural consequences which were held at bay by these people, albeit slow moving, become inevitable.

Best of luck to you. There is only the possibility of harm by continuing any discussion under these circumstances.

I'd suggest remembering this when you start wondering, "where have all the intelligent and competent people gone?".

Silence doesn't indicate agreement. It is indicative of the best and brightest no longer contributing to the same systems that seek to destroy or enslave them.

palata|1 year ago

It seems like your negative sentiment above has been downvoted a lot, and I understand your frustration. Your comment was indeed not offensive.

But I believe it was just that: a negative sentiment. Not exactly a "constructive, intelligent criticism". And when you go there, the reality is that people will vote to reflect their own opinion. If you say "This project is so amazing!" and get a ton of upvotes, it does not mean that your comment is super useful; just that many people agree. Similarly, if you say "Naah, it sucks" and get a ton of downvotes, it means that many people disagree. Not that they want to silent you.

Now try an actual constructive criticism: you may get downvotes (that's how it is because people are emotional beings), but probably upvotes as well if you bring interesting insights.

> There is only the possibility of harm by continuing any discussion under these circumstances.

That's fair. I think one mistake there is that you should have started with a constructive criticism rather than an admittedly polite "naaaah, I think it sucks".