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treme | 1 year ago

The man may exaggerate pace of progress but he has more than proved him self with TESLA, SpaceX, Neuralink. that's 3 bleeding edge companies in 3 different industries.

p.s) For those misinformed about state of Neuralink. Currently in beta with quadriplegic patients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVcMpjIY52Q

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richardw|1 year ago

Then he can claim those things, but not what he hasn’t done yet. He’s very capable and I’m happy to defend his contribution, but his pronouncements on “full self driving” have been untruthful. It is not full self driving. It was not autopilot. If the new version is, the world should be thrilled. It’s probably not.

threeseed|1 year ago

And he's also proven himself with X, Boring, SolarCity, America PAC, PayPal etc.

Ekaros|1 year ago

Not to forget his most brilliant brain child of hyper loop. Which has already revolutionized transport and replaced cars, trains, planes and ships... Oh wait...

dgrin91|1 year ago

Paypal did very well, no? Solar City wasn't a homerun like spacex, but I wouldn't call it a failure. America PAC is not something I agree with, but again, not clear what your point about it is?

We can agree that he is an asshole and also acknowledge the fact that he has a statistically significant success rate for big engineering tasks.

igornadj|1 year ago

I never understood the criticism for late delivery from the tech community. We of all people should know how difficult estimating can be. I can cut Musky some slack on this one.

throw0101d|1 year ago

> We of all people should know how difficult estimating can be.

Then (a) perhaps keep your mouth shut until you can deliver it, and (b) don't take people's money for something that you say is "only X years away" when it's actually X+3/4/5.

stackghost|1 year ago

He doesn't actually do any of the work in developing those technologies. He didn't even found Tesla. He's just the front man with enough money to buy titles like "chief engineer" and "founder".

A complete grifter.

treme|1 year ago

you don't know anything about how business works if you can't appreciate how Elon managed to turn Tesla at concept car stage to current mass manufacturing capacities and being more valuable than next 7 car companies combined.

the man got into Stanford for Physics, and there are more than enough anecdotes from his biography done by Walter Isaacson that confirm his technical prowess.

acchow|1 year ago

When you get to higher level, you’re not doing work but instead you are guiding work and making decisions.

Whenever you don't know which way to go, you consult someone more senior. Those people do the same with their seniors. And so on.

There are many stories from people who have worked with Elon scattered across books and interviews. He makes wild decisions, tells people to do it, and somehow the sum of these wild ideas works out.

Remember, the idea of landing a reusable rocket was abandoned long ago by many nations because it was deemed impossible or financially infeasible. Yet here we are with SpaceX dropping LOE launch prices per kg by 90-98%.

You can call Elon many things, but a grifter he is not.

TheAlchemist|1 year ago

That's bullshit.

He is a grifter, and I believe he's going to prison for fraud soon.

But it's also true that he's / was incredible at attracting top talent, pushing seemingly impossible projects and delivering.

CPLX|1 year ago

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saturn8601|1 year ago

The crippled guy playing video games with his mind is not notable? I guess others may have done it before? I dont know, they have terrible PR if so.

leoh|1 year ago

Idk why this is getting downvoted because it’s basically true