[nkmskdmfodf]

> Apple has full-disk encryption backed by the secure enclave so its not by-passable.

Any claims about security of apple hardware or software are meaningless. If you actually need a secure device, apple is not an option.

[brailsafe]

> Any claims about security of apple hardware or software are meaningless. If you actually need a secure device, apple is not an option.

I don't think this is precise, but the constraints seem a bit vague to me. What do you consider to be in the list of secure devices?

[worthless-trash]

I'm not even here to troll, if you can give details on the list and why that'd be awesome

[m4rtink]

Using fully open hardware and software I guess ?