[tupolef]

The only way to get an honest electronic vote is by giving realtime visibility on who voted what and where publicly.

Everything else is a scam.

It would mean no secrecy of vote, but I think that secrecy of vote is for places that are new to democracy.

It could be anonymised to a point a clever system of personal certificats, but the idea is that in a 100 people district, the citizens should be able to count themselves and check if their real votes are correctly registred.

If the list is public, everyone got a proof of vote and can confirm that the global list is correct localy, then there is no way to hide cheating.

[EasyMark]

The value of secrecy is for protecting wives, mothers, etc from violence and punishment. the same is also true in local elections in particular. You could be ostracized from public services in a heart beat if they knew your vote. I can think of a hundred other reasons why a secret ballot is better than a public ballot. A secret ballot is necessary for safety, courtesy, and well being of a society.

[arp242]

Also see: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/women-cancel...

[stuaxo]

There are ways of doing this using encryption so that the person will know what their own vote is in a way that others don't.

[tupolef]

But, there is still someone somewhere that distribute the certificats and can link you to your vote so why try to hide something that can leak. It will leak.

[mFixman]

"Prove that you voted for Putin or you are out of a job".

[saturn8601]

>The only way to get an honest electronic vote is by giving realtime visibility on who voted what and where publicly.

How about having the voter verify a printed copy of their electronic vote before the machine casts the ballot and then counting the paper ballots afterwards to verify the tally with the machine. Two way verification. Problem solved.

Since 2016, with the help of activists over the country, NJ and many otther states switched to electronic machines with paper records validated by the voter. Unfortunately the part about counting the paper ballots afterwards varies between states.

[ytpete]

I believe since 2002 all electronic voting machines must produce a paper receipt like that, due to the Help America Vote Act.

I don't think most states hand-check every single ballot, but I'd be shocked if there are any that don't perform random audits where some sampling of the receipt are hand-checked.

[myth2018]

> The only way to get an honest electronic vote is by giving realtime visibility on who voted what and where publicly.

The secrecy on individual votes has a good reason to exist. Votes are already bought based on per-section public results, imagine what would happen if individual votes were public.

Moreover, people under any sort of threat (communities dominated by drug dealers, employees of a dishonest, politically engaged business owner) would be in big trouble.

[ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7]

> Everything else is a scam.

There is no evidence of voting systems in the US being "scams".

This monster under the bed mentality is getting tiresome.

[hackable_sand]

Yes. These are all social problems.