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hurutparittya | 1 year ago
In case of Macbooks, it's the fact that they refuse to provide an official GPU driver for Linux and general poor support for things outside the walled garden. The Asahi stuff is cool and all, but come on, is a 3.4 trillion dollar company really going to just stand there and watch some volunteers struggling to provide support for their undocumented hardware without doing anything substantial to help? That sounds straight up insulting to me, especially for such a premium product.
For iphones, it's the fact that you are not allowed to run your own code on YOUR OWN DEVICE without paying the Apple troll toll and passing the honestly ridiculous Apple Store requirements.
And of course, in both cases, they actively sabotage third party repairs of their devices.
umanwizard|1 year ago
I know you admit right after that your opinion is biased, but it's almost ludicrous to assert that all the programmers and engineers using Macs and iPhones by choice must just not be tech literate.
> In case of Macbooks, it's the fact that they refuse to provide an official GPU driver for Linux
MBPs are so much better than any other laptop that, with a few caveats[1], running Linux in a VM on a top-of-the-line MBP is a much nicer experience than using Linux natively on any other laptop. So while it'd be nice if there were more first-party support for Linux, it's certainly not a deal-breaker for "tech-literate" people. (Not to mention the fact that there are "tech-literate" people who use macOS and not Linux, so it wouldn't matter to them at all).
> general poor support for things outside the walled garden
macOS isn't a walled garden, so I don't know what you mean. You can download any software you want from anywhere you want and run it on your laptop, and Apple doesn't do anything to try to prevent this.
> The Asahi stuff is cool and all, but come on, is a 3.4 trillion dollar company really going to just stand there and watch some volunteers struggling to provide support for their undocumented hardware without doing anything substantial to help? That sounds straight up insulting to me, especially for such a premium product.
Now it's unclear whether your point is "I don't understand why people use Macs because there are objective drawbacks" or "I don't think people should use Macs because Apple does stuff that I find annoying". You're blending the two here but they are meaningfully separate points. I've discussed the practical point already above, but as for the stuff you subjectively find annoying: surely the only real answer is that lots of other people just subjectively don't care as much as you.
> For iphones, it's the fact that you are not allowed to run your own code on YOUR OWN DEVICE without paying the Apple troll toll and passing the honestly ridiculous Apple Store requirements.
I don't care about this at all. I've never wanted to run my own code on my own iOS device except when I was working on iOS apps and had an Apple developer account through work. I, like the vast majority of people, use my phone as a browsing/messaging/media consumption device, not as a general-purpose computer.
If Apple tried to prevent me from running my own code on my own MacBook, it would be a deal-breaker, but as I already said above, they don't.
In conclusion I think you've confused "tech-literate person" and "geek who wants to be able to tweak/configure everything". Indeed there is a large overlap between those sets, but they're not quite the same thing.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41997107
hurutparittya|1 year ago
I feel like there used to be a higher concentration of those people here.