[effingwewt]

Not really. I just came off night shift and was thrown right back on it. We work 12 hour shifts, they alternate between forced overtime and disallowed overtime at their whims.

When I brought up I have yet to get my float (4x10s considered the 'easy' shift) I was told there was nothing they could do. All I could think was well how will you handle it when I leave?

Management really is that dense.

They care not one whit about objections nor people leaving.

Imho it's merely a matter of time but the younger guys all hold out hope. I've none left.

[tivert]

> All I could think was well how will you handle it when I leave?

You mentioned upthread:

> New plants came to town paying current market rate and snagged most of the top talent.

You should totally get a job at one of those plants and let them hang.

[nothercastle]

Many Manufacturing managers hate people and just treat them as an expense to be exploited.

[ninininino]

So what you're saying isn't you have tried saying "no" and just seeing if they call your bluff and fire you or just let you leave.