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changing1999 | 1 year ago
I don't disagree with your first point. Yes, I would like to see these breakdowns. However, OP's point was that other factors like natural death can account for some of these numbers. This point is reasonable and data seems to suggest that it is statistically probable.
> educate yourself about the Kafala[0] system
Is this an abusive system? Yes. Does it create opportunities for slavery? Yes. Can 21K deaths be attributed so slavery? No evidence. This is not splitting hairs, this is a reasonable approach to digging into details when dealing with complex issues.
wormlord|1 year ago
You found a random datapoint to compare to without accounting for confounding variables. That is an unserious analysis.
> Yes. Can 21K deaths be attributed so slavery? No evidence. This is not splitting hairs, this is a reasonable approach to digging into details when dealing with complex issues.
The issue is not complex. You are just using this air of objectivity as cover for your intellectual incuriosity. You could literally stop arguing with me and go read articles that have been documenting the high mortality rate and human rights abuses, that have been coming out since around the time that the Qatar World Cup was announced, but you wont. People have done the legwork to bring this journalism to you, but you wont bother to go and read it, because you'd rather pull some stats out of your ass and call it a day, and then lecture others about emotionally-driven arguments.
The fundamental problem here is that you are being intellectually incurious, but don't want to admit it, and you are trying to stave off the cognitive dissonance that happens when you read about something bad happening, so you can contextualize it and go about your day without feeling sad. If that's the case, just say "I don't live in Saudi Arabia why the fuck do I care", at least it's honest.
changing1999|1 year ago