[jpmoral]

The West's drip-feeding of support and arbitrary restrictions on the use of weapons was a disaster.

[Maken]

Restrictions on the use of weapons are reasonable. The non-nuclear proliferation efforts were the real disaster. They clearly failed.

[jpmoral]

I don't agree it was reasonable that Ukraine couldn't strike airbases when it had the chance. Meanwhile it's Russia that is escalating: targeting civilians on a mass and individual scale, torturing and murdering POWs, using gas. They know there will only be condemnation and hand-wringing but no action.

[cpursley]

Avoiding nuclear holocaust was a disaster?

[jpmoral]

Were nukes launched after the Kursk offensive? That eas a bright red line if Russia ever had one.

[bogle]

MAD. It actually works. Putin has had his bluff called on this.