[Xeamek]

You know that Hitler was literally voted into power, right?

I am NOT saying Trump is literally Hitler, but the idea that democratic vote can't have un-democratic outcome in the long run is simply false. It can, and history showed us that more then once

[Clubber]

>You know that Hitler was literally voted into power, right?

He was not. This is a popular misconception.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power

[AshamedCaptain]

What do you call being the majority party, winning referendums, etc?

Certainly there is a lot of voter intimidation, control of the press, etc. behind it, but I think that's precisely what is being debated here.

[snickerbockers]

That's the problem with this statement: Trump is not Hitler and any hypothetical "undemocratic outcomes" aren't apparent in the extreme short term. He hasn't run on a platform of eliminating democracy and there isn't any indication at this point that he will.

[jamincan]

I've not been as immersed in the presidential race, but hasn't he explicitly said he wants to be a dictator, this is the last vote you will need, we should stop so and so from voting and so on? Like, right out of his mouth? How is that not an undemocratic platform?

[onlyrealcuzzo]

He ran on a platform that he won the 2020 election, and it was stolen.

How is that not anti-democratic?

[wyatt_dolores]

He has literally said "Vote for me, and you'll never have to vote again."

[BadHumans]

He absolutely said vote for me and you'll never have to vote again because we'll have it fixed. How is that not running on eliminating democracy?

[Sabinus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capito...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempts_to_overturn_the_2020_...

This stuff was not merely spicy words, it was dangerous. Democracy runs on norms and good people, and is precious and hard won. Trump being in power is a risk.

[ks2048]

He said many times very explicitly he will be a dictator on day one. We'll find out in a few months what the means exactly. I honestly don't know.

[bspammer]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they...

[formerly_proven]

> hasn't run on a platform of eliminating democracy

Didn't he literally say in his victory speech that he's now elected the 47th president, as he also was the 46th?

In the story Trump tells, he literally already is a third-term president.

[FractalHQ]

What about when he said he wanted to be dictator so people wouldn’t have to vote anymore? And when he made himself above the law with MAGA court justices? Or talked about a firing squad for his opponents and opening fire on peaceful protestors? Or when he attempted a violent coup on the White House? Or when he praised Hitler and asked for generals like Hitlers that will do anything he says without question? Or when he praised Putin, Kim Jun Un, and other the dictators of the world?

[dsmithn]

“Except for day one”

[kristiandupont]

He literally tried to overthrow the election 4 years ago. I mean, he wasn't exactly being subtle about it!