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astine | 1 year ago

Yes, that's true, but the problem is that these past four years have been bad for everybody, so they remember the Trump years as being better than they actually were.

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jghn|1 year ago

> these past four years have been bad for everybody

They've been pretty good for some people.

enraged_camel|1 year ago

Yeah, if you're a high earner living the urban/suburban life you've probably done really well. The problem is that rural turnout was off the charts last night, which what handed Trump the popular vote - something that has not happened with a Republican candidate since 2004.

throw_that_away|1 year ago

I lost my job a few months back, and I feel like the messaging from Harris/Biden was everything's great! Keep doing whatever is happening. Voted for who spoke to me.

Every company I join literally has an arm in Mexico, India, Pakistan, Colombia or Ukraine - and it always started feeling like at any minute those people would have my job. And they do. I want an administration that makes it so that those people don't have my job. And yes, I have always been willing to work for a lot less, but all the other Americans want more and more and more, so that it's expected for a programmer in the US to make 200k, so these companies decide to hire someone in Colombia for 80k. I'll take 100 and work a lot closer than that person in Colombia. But no companies here will listen to that. And I'll do it as someone with 20 years of experience.

But the only thing people on the left care about, as usual, are issues that actually don't matter. Yes I get it you want Gay rights and you want Abortion rights, but the reality is those things are not going away in the states you're already in. But on the other side, American people are being pushed into a terrible economic state.

Go ahead and not listen, HN doesn't. It's WAAAY to left.

stcroixx|1 year ago

Whatever measures are used to portray the economy as great(it's not just the stock market) or unemployment is down do not match with the impact people feel in their own lives. Maybe they aren't lies, but they aren't accurate either. Massive layoffs in our industry and a glut of H1Bs still hanging around are a problem for an American job seeker in this industry and we'll look out for our interests despite what we're told.

anthonypasq|1 year ago

unemployment was at historic lows, you just got unlucky. idk what to tell you man

tayo42|1 year ago

you think trump is going help programmers in the US at all? How? Trump merchandise isn't made in the US. His daughters brands are manufactured in Asia.

tharmas|1 year ago

Under Biden, Mexico is the China replacement for manufacturing.

I have my doubts that Trump will change that.

purple_ferret|1 year ago

They've been great for US Stock holders, which basically comprises most of the Upper and Upper Middle Class.

In fact, so good, people think anything buy 10-20% yearly gains on assets is bad