[throw_that_away]

I lost my job a few months back, and I feel like the messaging from Harris/Biden was everything's great! Keep doing whatever is happening. Voted for who spoke to me.

Every company I join literally has an arm in Mexico, India, Pakistan, Colombia or Ukraine - and it always started feeling like at any minute those people would have my job. And they do. I want an administration that makes it so that those people don't have my job. And yes, I have always been willing to work for a lot less, but all the other Americans want more and more and more, so that it's expected for a programmer in the US to make 200k, so these companies decide to hire someone in Colombia for 80k. I'll take 100 and work a lot closer than that person in Colombia. But no companies here will listen to that. And I'll do it as someone with 20 years of experience.

But the only thing people on the left care about, as usual, are issues that actually don't matter. Yes I get it you want Gay rights and you want Abortion rights, but the reality is those things are not going away in the states you're already in. But on the other side, American people are being pushed into a terrible economic state.

Go ahead and not listen, HN doesn't. It's WAAAY to left.

[stcroixx]

Whatever measures are used to portray the economy as great(it's not just the stock market) or unemployment is down do not match with the impact people feel in their own lives. Maybe they aren't lies, but they aren't accurate either. Massive layoffs in our industry and a glut of H1Bs still hanging around are a problem for an American job seeker in this industry and we'll look out for our interests despite what we're told.

[anthonypasq]

unemployment was at historic lows, you just got unlucky. idk what to tell you man

[ANewFormation]

There was a massive downward revision in August, with most sectors hit hard, leaving the gains that remained increasingly dominated by government/education/healthcare jobs.

Telling people 'X' when their eyes/lived experiences tell them 'Y', and then frequently insulting them for not agreeing on top is certainly part of the reason for the popular vote going as it did.

[themaninthedark]

It's at historic lows while layoffs are happening all over. I don't know what to say but it doesn't feel like good times to a bunch of people.

John Deere: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/john-deere-faces-b...

GM: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/21/business/gm-layoffs-kansas/in...

Stellantis: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5145932/stellantis-jeep...

https://intellizence.com/insights/layoff-downsizing/leading-...

[throw_that_away]

Exactly what Harris was saying, hence the direction of my vote! Also, 50 job apps and no call backs, this is the WORST economy ever. In 2018, I would submit 3 and get 3 offers at the end of it.

[tayo42]

you think trump is going help programmers in the US at all? How? Trump merchandise isn't made in the US. His daughters brands are manufactured in Asia.

[tharmas]

Under Biden, Mexico is the China replacement for manufacturing.

I have my doubts that Trump will change that.

[anuraj]

China heavily invested in Mexico. They are building up Mexico's manufacturing capacity to cover American demand. Either way, China wins.