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h2odragon | 1 year ago

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ThrowawayR2|1 year ago

I have to agree. The hard liners and fanatics insisted "you're either with us 100% or against us; no compromises" and then were surprised to be surrounded by people against them on election day.

What little hope there is for the Democrats to recover lies in repudiating and purging these hard liners. If they double down, they'll lose just as badly next time.

techfeathers|1 year ago

I sort of agree with you, I assume they ran on Trump is a threat to democracy because it polled well, and the data does show that they did much better in the states they campaigned in than states they didn't (on average 1.5 points better in the swing states they campaigned in). But it obviously wasn't persuasive enough, with the people they needed to persuade.

I think that Democrats are playing defense. People talk about a political realignment and I think the Democrats have become the small-c conservative party. They're afraid of losing the progress they've made so they're on the defensive while the Republicans are on the offensive / party of change. Democrats may win in 2026 and 2028 with this strategy, but it will be slim margins, if they want a real mandate, they're going to have to completely change their strategy.

taylodl|1 year ago

I'm calling BS on this line of reasoning.

Evil is evil.

Calling your political opponents "enemies of the state" as Trump has done numerous times, and calling for their execution, which Trump has also done several times, is evil.

I really don't give a shit about your rationalizations for why you support and advocate for evil. America elected evil with their eyes wide open. Own it. Stop your gaslighting and pretending that's not what happened.

You need to figure out which side of Hanlon's razor you're on.

skhunted|1 year ago

Democratic persuasion techniques like this are also part of the problem...

People buy shirts that say “I’d rather be Russian than a liberal.” The demonization of the opposing ideology goes both ways. Everything you wrote applies to conservatives as well.

Trump lusts after his own daughter and if that alone doesn’t qualify him as a shitty person to his supporters then they clearly value ideology over the truth and morality.

h2odragon|1 year ago

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