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soc88 | 13 years ago

> The core of the PHP community is filled with a lot of really talented and smart developers doing some really amazing things.

Like those, who failed for years to actually consult the results of the test suite before shipping a new release? http://gcov.php.net/viewer.php?version=PHP_5_4

Like those who change stuff incompatibly to the worse, while introducing security holes? http://php.net/manual/en/function.is-a.php https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=55475

Like those were security fixes create even larger holes? http://thexploit.com/secdev/critical-php-remote-vulnerabilit...

Like those who can't program a sane line of code in the language PHP is written in? "OMG, this calculation overflows, let's replace the int by an float!"

You can't make that shit up. I have nothing against stupid people, but against stupid people who fight against every kind of process who could prevent their own stupidity like

- "learning from mistakes",

- "learning the language they actually program in",

- "handling bug reports in a way it doesn't alienate reporters" or

- "having a decent test coverage".

Instead of thinking about yet-another-documentation site, what about fixing the devastating quality of their API documentation (especially the comments)?

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debacle|13 years ago

The PHP team is bad, and has very little to do with the PHP community - Anthony (I think his name is Anthony) is talking about Fabien Potencier and John Wage and Sebastian Bergmann - people who are writing great software in spite of PHP's interpreter.

soc88|13 years ago

The question is why they don't move on to a working language, knowing that the PHP team will _never_ fix all these bugs. It is like those people who keep penny-stocks they bought years ago for a lot of money, trying not to realize that their investment is worthless now.