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Show HN: 51,000 6 character domains

128 points| jqueryin | 13 years ago |coreyballou.com | reply

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[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
For the last few years I've been toying with a variety of techniques for finding available domain names. This is one of my more recent attempts that I thought would be useful to all of you on HN. I created a simple search and alphabetical lookup with pagination to be able to browse through these domains as easily as possible. I built the website search functionality yesterday, so it was quick and dirty (but hopefully the UI is clean enough).

Since the current listing is cached, the only way to tell if a domain is truly still available (and some other HN member hasn't picked it up), you need to click the "Test" button to run a new WHOIS test. If the domain is taken, it'll automatically be removed and you'll be informed. If not, you'll get a nice little success message with both purchase buttons.

I'd love any suggestions. Let us know if you find anything good :)

[+] simonsarris|13 years ago|reply
>Let us know if you find anything good :)

I was surprised saalty.com wasn't taken. It sounds so damn cute. I just bought it on impulse because my heart melts at the drop of a hat for some dumb reason.

Now I have to draw something cute to put there, like a little deer licking a salt cube.

[+] freehunter|13 years ago|reply
A random button would be nice, rather than simply alphabetical. Find 5 random 6-letter domain names. Helps with discovery if someone truly has no idea of what they want and are simply looking for inspiration.
[+] mkl|13 years ago|reply
This is pretty cool. The only suggestions I have are the obvious ones of finding search strings anywhere (not just the beginning), and including more domains (which I'm guessing means adding more bigrams).

Where did you get the list of domains? Does it include all six character ones, or just the ones made of the common bigrams?

[+] a3_nm|13 years ago|reply
Maybe it would be interesting to have a way to sort the result by "score" so that the more "natural" results appear first? (The score should be a combination of the bigram frequencies, maybe the frequency of the full domain name in the bigram model.)
[+] jneal|13 years ago|reply
I didn't buy it, but I saw colert.com and thought it sounded like a pretty good company name. Reminds me of alert I'd imagine some kind of website monitoring service perhaps
[+] megablast|13 years ago|reply
Love it, thanks. Need to be careful not to register too many domain names.

Could you add the combo 'ap' or even 'app', so we could find a good name for hosting apps?

[+] tagawa|13 years ago|reply
Fun to play with!

One very small point - you might want to change "Courtesty of" to "Courtesy of" (unless it's deliberate).

[+] matt1|13 years ago|reply
Hey Corey, Lean Domain Search creator here -- nice site and list.

One thing I'd recommend is to have users click on the results to show them registration options. This gives you the added benefit of being able to automatically double-check that the domain is still available which makes for a much smoother workflow. This would also free up space on your interface which could let you display the results in multiple columns, letting you fit more results on a single page. You can see this in action at Lean Domain Search by searching for a keyword and then clicking one of the available results, ex: http://www.leandomainsearch.com/search?q=jquery

Overall nice start though. Looking forward to seeing other domain name generation algorithm results.

[+] hpathiraja|13 years ago|reply
Hey, just thought I'd let you know that the Twitter availability lookup doesn't seem to work correctly. Even for usernames that are available, it's notifying that they are taken.
[+] hornbaker|13 years ago|reply
Possible bug: as I'm scrolling down any list, for example http://www.coreyballou.com/six-character-domain-names/L/, and the infinite scroll refreshes at the bottom, I'm seeing many, many dupes – like the list is repeating. Makes the search very frustrating to keep seeing the same words. I'd second the request for a downloadable text list of names if you're feeling generous. :)
[+] stephenhandley|13 years ago|reply
cool idea but the design is frustrating.

there's a lot of noise on the page considering all I want to see are the names and they only occupy about 1/16th of the screen currently. would be more easily consumable if you grouped by bigrams and had each row devoted to a given leading bigram.

al

  hi        fi        ...

    alhico    alfiof

    alhiea    alfiou

    ...
be

...

if i click on a name, then show the affiliate links.. otherwise they're just wasting space.

given that all the domains you're displaying are the same length, you have a nice constraint to work with in the design and could really use space well.

[+] jasondenizac|13 years ago|reply
Thanks for this - any way you'd be willing to post the raw list somewhere? I'd love to search and sort it with some other NLP factors (pronounceability, etc)
[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
Thanks for all of the comments today. I just barely added infinite scroll. I didn't have time to merge it with the pagination functionality, so changing the paginator at the top will reset the infinite scroll (and I'm not yet using HTML5 history and hashing). I'll get around to that in the near future, but this should help you all find things a bit faster.
[+] foxhop|13 years ago|reply
You know what would make searching easier? Serve the raw ascii list. I know you have affiliate links and all but a list is worth more. In fact, I'll pay you $10 for your list. I'd pay you $15 a month for a raw data feed to your list.

Make a company out of the data you mined, don't make money for a namecheap and godaddy!

[+] PaulHoule|13 years ago|reply
Perhaps this is good for trademarkable names that will impress investors.

There are still many names of the form

XY.com

where X and Y are two keywords relevant to your business. Very little is certain in SEO, but I've never met an SEO who didn't believe that keywords in the domain name will help you get traffic from people looking for "X", "Y" and "X Y".

The cost effectiveness of finding a good domain name with keywords is excellent for a "free" name and even fair in some cases if you spend $1k for a domain name. Compare that to the high costs and risks of link building and content creation.

[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
If you know your market well and have a variety of "X" and "Y" keywords, I'd highly suggest checking out http://bustaname.com. The site is fantastic for generating available word combinations.
[+] jameswilsterman|13 years ago|reply
Hypothetically could it be a good investment to buy all of these for $500K/yr?
[+] ohashi|13 years ago|reply
Horrible investment. You're buying what people haven't picked up in 27 years. If you want to see what happens when people mass buy based on patterns lookup what happened to 4 letter .coms. There was quite a bubble that's been long since burst. I think a lot are available again (the garbage). This would be similar to buying up all the garbage. There could be a few winners but I highly doubt you could make enough money to carry the rest.
[+] freehunter|13 years ago|reply
Something I just noticed: in your alphabetical list to narrow the results, it skips from E to H, indicating there is nothing with F. If you search for F, though, there are 25 pages of results.
[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
Good find, I must've removed it by accident when I was removing the empty results :) I'll get it back in!
[+] kmfrk|13 years ago|reply
Something is wrong with the infinite-scroll paginator. For t domains, it seems to loop or something, after it gets to tec-.
[+] ereckers|13 years ago|reply
It looks to me like there is nothing beginning with w, x, y, z. Am I not seeing it right?
[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
Nope, that's correct. Those letters do not have high frequency 2-letter combinations compared to the others.
[+] c_t_montgomery|13 years ago|reply
Nice. You should run the domains through domai.nr's "info" API (http://domai.nr/api/docs/json#info-api), so the user doesn't have to manually test by clicking the button.
[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
Thanks for the suggestion :) I'd almost prefer to continue doing the "Test" button since it'll likely only occur on a domain a user is interested in (although bad UX). I'm trying to keep my bandwidth and network IO to a minimum :)

I could, however, change my method of performing a WHOIS check for querying domai.nr instead, since I likely won't hit WHOIS limits that way.

[+] melvinmt|13 years ago|reply
For quick scan lists like this I'd either want to have small result lists above the fold so I can keep pressing 'Next' without scrolling down or huge lists (like leandomainsearch has) where I don't need to press 'Next'.
[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
I'll look into adding infinite scroll, it makes sense to have. I don't want to limit to something like 10 domains above the fold because it's such a limited set to look at and prev/next adds more barriers to entry for viewing more domains.
[+] jneal|13 years ago|reply
I second this. It's much easier to be able to just keep hitting next or to just simply scroll forever
[+] PaulMest|13 years ago|reply
Have you seen Domize? How is this better than that? Because it offers browsing instead of just searching?

Domize - http://domize.com/

[+] MattBearman|13 years ago|reply
Site looks cool. Just a heads up, you've got a bit of php "*/?>" showing on your buy now text.
[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
Thanks for the heads up. I've pushed at least 10 times today, cowboy coded the fix... Kids, don't try this at home.
[+] hotdox|13 years ago|reply
there are no domain names in range of SK - SS. Is this some bug or this bigramms are not popular?
[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
Hey, not sure if you're referring to beginning or ending with SK - SS. I'm only searching based on pattern matching of "TERM%" to ensure I'm hitting the db index. If you're referring to the beginning of a word, it's because I didn't handle the scenario of using the most popular starting 2 characters, just highest frequency characters overall.

The domains could definitely be improved upon if I used the highest frequency 2 letter beginnings as well as the highest frequency 2 letter endings. Instead, the listing is based on matching of the generalized list of highest letter frequencies.

Feel free to ask any more questions!

[+] davidbrent|13 years ago|reply
Scrolled through for a few minutes and found one I had to buy. Domains are addictive.
[+] kngl|13 years ago|reply
What's wrong with http://domai.nr ?
[+] jqueryin|13 years ago|reply
Nothing wrong with domai.nr, I actually love it. I also love bustaname. Both of those require you to have some idea of what you're searching for beforehand. This is for those of us who want to browse through a list of possibilities and remove guesswork.