[jahooma]

Thanks for your reply! I started Codebuff without being aware of Aider. I actually have not yet tried Aider (though I plan to try it soon!).

It's totally true that a lot of the development of Codebuff is merely me (and Brandon) working through a lot of the problems that Aider already solved! That makes sense.

Partly, my thesis is that if you start after Sonnet 3.5 is out, that you design things differently. For example, I started without manual file selection and worked to make it more like an agent that has native access to your environment.

Needless to say, I'm a fan of the work Paul has done on Aider, and I've appreciated the benchmarks and guides he's created and shared publicly. And Cline is also an amazing project which I want to try out soon as well!

With respect to privacy, we have pledged not to store your codebase, and mainly store logs that we use to debug the application. When seeing users use Codebuff, I mean I literally watched them use it, as we've done many in-person user tests, plus the Manifold Team has been using Codebuff for a while.

We also intend to release a Privacy Mode, like Cursor has, where we will not store anything at all, not even the logs of your interactions!

It makes sense to be a bit skeptical of Codebuff, since we are so new, but I intend to not let our users down!

[bunnyman]

Interesting!

Being in the same product space for more than 3 months, I wonder how one can not come across 2 popular open source tools that do more or less the same thing.

Like Aider has 21k stars, and Cline has around 11k stars. Both these product names come up on HN, Reddit frequently.

Curious to know if YC does some research on existing products before backing a new business.

[brandonchen]

It seems like we're all in our own tech bubbles more and more. Distribution is clearly a tough problem to crack, and no one in this space has really mastered it yet, aside from arguably Github Copilot.

No comment on YC here, but I think it's easy to criticize from the outside. I've personally have been impressed by all the peers, group partners, and alumni I've met so far. I'm biased, but I think YC knows what it's doing. Also, YC backs founders, not ideas.

[Oras]

In any YC application, they request a list of competitors and why your product is better! Curious about what OP listed as competitors in the application.

[ErikBjare]

This was surprising to me too.

I've also built a similar free and open-source tool gptme (2.5k stars), since the start of last year (GPT-3.5). It has been impossible to ignore the great work done by Aider.

[redman25]

> With respect to privacy, we have pledged not to store your codebase [...]

It isn't necessarily a strong guarantee to have "pledged", although it is appreciated.

[taskforcegemini]

Amber Heard ruined that word for me.