[markfsharp]

Unfortunately, I don't feel confident humanity has the ability not to destroy the environment that sustains our life. We are simply too selfish, unable to adjust our thinking to new information sufficiently, lack compassion for others, and/or just don't care about things that don't affect us directly.

[cyanydeez]

Theability exists, what doesnt exist is a framework to amiliorate existing and future damage.

Fascism is rising precisely because its easisr to circle the wagons and allow famines and destruction to minimize the global population

[pbsladek]

I think it’s possible. There are many innovative and compassionate people in the world trying to solve a variety of crazy hard problems that touch this topic.

But maybe we land in a middle ground. Maybe we make it to another planet.

And if we don’t, we will adapt.

P.S. Watch George Carlin save the plant for a laugh.

[self_awareness]

So compassionate people should clean up after selfish people? So why should a selfish person even care, when they know that a compassionate people will clean up after them?

This is a road for compassionate people to become slaves of selfish people.

I think that the only way for "persuading" selfish people to clean up after themselves is to somehow force them to do it.

[netsharc]

It's a different kind of "denialism" when people think the magic solution will come somehow, someday soon (i.e. denying how fucked we are, or lying to ourselves that we have the resource budget to produce millions of EVs when in reality all car production needs to be ended, or denying that interplanetary salvation is just too god damn far away timewise):

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jun/20/...

The selfishness is now apparent, hey someone just got reelected promising it'll be better for "us" and that we're going to get rid of "them", and the fuck-the-poor-hungry-climate-catastrophe-victims rightwing populism is rising in Europe too.