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As someone who evangeline Arel where I used to work 10y ago, I can assure you that arel has *never* been considered stable (it also never followed semver), nor has it ever been considered recommended or publicly documented API to use with rails, neither in the time prior to the gem having been moved to the github rails org, nor after. And every rails core team member that has publicly mentioned arel since, afair has always prefaced it with the "private API" warning.

> Sometimes you just need SQL not everything that AR gives you.

I used to agree, until I took a step back and realised how much ruby code ceremony I had to write in order to write, p.ex. A multi insert statement With an expression. It was several character more, and didn't seamlessly trabslate to SQL. I eventually replaced the AREL craft with core sequel, where I'd use it to build the queries and pass the statements to the AR sql execution method. I could have gone with raw sequel too.

> Hanami is a complete Rails replacement. I wouldn’t advocate for that at all.

The top level comment mentioned abstractions that something like hanami already supports. Instead of bending rails, to something it was not built to support, you either pick an alternative tool that does, or you accept what rails does and move on.