> They are vaccines. > Okay they aren't vaccines they are mRNA, but we changed the definition of vaccine.
There's many different types of vaccines, you can invent new ones without changing the definition.
> They prevent you from contracting and spreading the virus. > Okay they don't prevent you from contracting the virus but they prevent you from spreading. > Okay they don't prevent you from spreading but they reduce symptoms.
They work on a specific strain of the virus, they're not effective against other strains. The whole point about quarantining, social distancing, masks, etc, is to lower the spread of a strain before it has a chance to mutate into a new one so a vaccine that targets it can be administrated to enough of the population so it can actually be effective in stopping its spread.
Did you happen to have a brain worm by any chance?
"COVID-19 vaccination of the index case reduced infectiousness by 44% (95% CI, 27-57%), vaccination of the close contact reduced susceptibility by 69% (95% CI, 65-73%), and vaccination of both reduced transmissibility by 74% (95% CI, 70-78%) in social settings, suggesting some synergy of effects."
"Conclusions: COVID-19 vaccination reduces infectiousness and susceptibility; however, these effects are insufficient for complete control of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, especially in older people and household setting."
Overall, I think the dominant phenomenon here is people wanted to typecast floating-point data to boolean answers, the media did their best to accomodate that want, and almost nobody reads primary sources.
Hikikomori|1 year ago
There's many different types of vaccines, you can invent new ones without changing the definition.
> They prevent you from contracting and spreading the virus. > Okay they don't prevent you from contracting the virus but they prevent you from spreading. > Okay they don't prevent you from spreading but they reduce symptoms.
They work on a specific strain of the virus, they're not effective against other strains. The whole point about quarantining, social distancing, masks, etc, is to lower the spread of a strain before it has a chance to mutate into a new one so a vaccine that targets it can be administrated to enough of the population so it can actually be effective in stopping its spread.
Did you happen to have a brain worm by any chance?
nixdev|1 year ago
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shadowgovt|1 year ago
"Conclusions: COVID-19 vaccination reduces infectiousness and susceptibility; however, these effects are insufficient for complete control of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, especially in older people and household setting."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36724697/
Overall, I think the dominant phenomenon here is people wanted to typecast floating-point data to boolean answers, the media did their best to accomodate that want, and almost nobody reads primary sources.
nixdev|1 year ago
> Pfizer/BioNTech says its Covid-19 vaccine is 100% effective and well tolerated in adolescents
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/health/pfizer-vaccine-adolesc...
nixdev|1 year ago
> IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37243095/