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d2049 | 1 year ago

I'm a bit hesitant to give my voice away to really any company. Is it really that much of a stretch to imagine the ways this could go wrong?

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plagiarist|1 year ago

I do prefer a robot standing in instead of me to fulfill the little power trip calling attendance. There is little reason the updates cannot be async in text or via the JIRA tickets I already have to do. A robot could add in pull request data too.

But it doesn't need to be my voice. It in fact should be illegal for Microsoft to use my voice for training without my express consent, and even then they must delete all models and data about it when requested. And it should be illegal for an employer to request or expect it.

LinuxBender|1 year ago

This will be an unpopular take as I know tech folks get excited by any new tech but I predict deviants will gain access to this capability and I can imagine the thousands of ways they will wreck someones personal and professional life, make them homeless and destitute. People will need to put entirely new safeguards in places they never imagined they would need and this may even spin off entirely new artificially required industries in the same way that anti-virus and anti-spam came about despite being entirely avoidable but that's a different topic. This is not limited to Microsoft's service. This will happen anywhere people are storing a sufficient sample of peoples voices.

One example mitigation I implemented at a local bank is to have them disable most aspects of internet access to my accounts. They are read-only from the internet and outbound wire transfers are blocked. They now require my physical presence and I make sure all the employees know me personally. I test them from time to time on the phone. My goal is to terminate business relationships with anyone I can not do this with. This will be too much for some people at first, having to treat every business relationship as hostile and I am not even sure I can get 100% completion of my goal

I do not know how to solve this on a global scale. I think the only way things start changing around this vulnerability is when powerful people experience shared pain. Lawmakers, executives, investors, etc... Such as businesses losing billions because some department thought they were talking to a real person and governments losing large amounts of tax revenue when more companies have this capability and it gets abused by deviants. Curious what happens when the fake POTUS calls the real Vladimir and Xi.

maxerickson|1 year ago

There's tech that can do a reasonable approximation using a sample a couple of seconds long.

Any control over that is going to be through social and legal mechanisms, it isn't going to work to try to prevent access to the needed data.

deegles|1 year ago

I would trust Microsoft with my voice more than some random startup.

f1refly|1 year ago

Why? Microsoft is a proven bad actor while the startup might have good people of you're lucky.

hulitu|1 year ago

> I would trust Microsoft with my voice more than some random startup.

I bet you haven't read their privacy policy. It starts with: "Your privacy is very important for us." /s

almatabata|1 year ago

Imagine what happens when the company gets hacked and they start selling your voice online?

Sophisticated Phishing attacks, blackmail, destroying someones public image