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rgrmrts | 1 year ago

I really like all the blog posts and videos the Zed team has put out, thank you if you’re reading this!

Unrelated to this specific post I’m such a fan of Zed. It’s the first feature complete text editor in recent memory that I’ve truly enjoyed using (i.e. it stays out of the way, is really fast, feels well engineered). I’m coming to Zed after years of Emacs which I still have love for but no longer feels like a competitive piece of software (it does not take full advantage of how good computers are today, e.g. gpu rendering or multicore). I really hope Zed stays a fast and lightweight text editor instead of becoming some bloated growth-at-all-cost VC ware (not that they’ve exhibited any signs of that happening). I’d also happily pay for Zed without a subscription based thing for access to LLM features (which I do not use).

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seanw444|1 year ago

> it does not take full advantage of how good computers are today, e.g. gpu rendering or multicore

Why does Emacs need that though? I hear people say this all the time and I don't get it. Multicore kind of works against the structure that Emacs touts as a feature. And GPU rendering? In many applications, I totally agree with these complaints. But it's a text editor.

I tried Zed myself, and it's good. But it doesn't dethrone Emacs (for me personally).

vinkelhake|1 year ago

> But it's a text editor.

Long time emacs user here (+20 years, yikes). I've used it on all kinds of computers during this time. Even a relatively modest computer from 2024 is an absolute beast compared to something from the year 2000.

With that said, there are text editing operations that can cause it to grind to a complete halt, especially working with large files (or very long lines). And it shouldn't, you know? I think emacs users sort of internalize which operations they should avoid. It's kind of ridiculous to have to do that in a text editor with the massive amounts of compute that our computers have today.

PittleyDunkin|1 year ago

> Multicore kind of works against the structure that Emacs touts as a feature.

I have consistent issues with emacs locking up when executing network requests. I'm sure there's a specific bug that could be hunted down and addressed, but this sort of thing shouldn't happen much in an editor that's multicore by default.

I'm not trying to dismiss emacs' reasoning, of course, but I can understand being disgruntled with it.

The actual rendering I've been quite please by, though!

DrBenCarson|1 year ago

“Need” is strong but using GPU rendering is definitely better than CPU rendering and makes things feel very snappy

Most new TTY projects use GPUs for that reason

kevin_thibedeau|1 year ago

GPU rendering simplifies smooth text scrolling which used to be a thing on some dumb terminals and microcomputers like Amiga that supported it in hardware. Most emulators are locking character cells on a fixed grid and we miss out on such niceties.