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treflop | 1 year ago

At work, whoever designed our setup put the staging and dev environments on the same domain and the entire massive company has adopted this pattern.

What a colossal mistake.

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teaearlgraycold|1 year ago

For the juniors reading this, here's what you do:

Buy a second domain, ideally using the same TLD as your production domain (some firewalls and filters will be prejudiced against specific TLDs). Mimic the subdomains exactly as they are in production for staging/dev.

anonfordays|1 year ago

Just use subdomains such as *.dev.example.com, *.test.example.com, *.prod.example.com, etc., no?

NavinF|1 year ago

Yep. Even within the prod environment it's ideal to have a separate domain (as defined by the Public Suffix List) for sketchy stuff like files uploaded by users. Eliminates a whole class of security issues and general fuckery

jamesfinlayson|1 year ago

I had the option to re-use the prod domain for non-prod a few years ago (the company's other two projects use the prod domain for all non-prod environments).

I didn't really think about cookies back then but it just felt like a generally bad idea because disastrously messing up a URL in some config or related service would be much easier.

dgoldstein0|1 year ago

Nah dev should probably be a separate tld so the cookies are completely isolated.

Stage, it depends - if you want stage to have production data with newer code, and are fine with the session / cookies being shared - host it on the same domain and switch whether users get stage or prod based on IP, who is logged in, and/or a cookie. That way your code doesn't have to do anything different for stage vs prod every time it looks at the request domain (or wants to set cookies).

If you want an isolated stage environment, why not just use a separate top level domain? Otherwise you are likely seeing yourself up for the two interfering with each other via cookies on the TLD.

anal_reactor|1 year ago

I'm sure this will be replicated in future projects because it's much easier to argue "we're already following this pattern so let's be consistent" than "this pattern is bad and let's not have two ruined projects"