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Love the word "Autopoietic", nobody really knows about it and any text that uses it for sure will capture my interest.

I've first thought of this within the concept of self-assembling autonomous agents in 2016. Good times dreaming about a future where AI permeates every facet our lives.

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mablopoule|1 year ago

Then you might really like the book I've first learn the world from, "Intelligence Emerging"[1] by Keith L. Downing. It's a very dense book about self-organizing processes, and emergence in general, and it drives me a bit crazy because it's one of my favorite book, but I never heard anyone mention it.

[1] https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262536844/intelligence-emerging...

ratedgene|1 year ago

Awesome rec. I'll check it out :)

block_dagger|1 year ago

Having AI permeate _every_ facet of life seems horrifying to me.

NitpickLawyer|1 year ago

May I ask why? I'm sincerely asking, no intention of flaming or trolling.

I think we're at a point where "online" stuff already permeates every facet of our lives. And many of these systems already employ "AI" (for very limited definitions of AI) at every step. You search based on embedding and language models. You get ads based on graph theory. You see friend's posts based on this. You get approved for a loan based on "AI", hell even some legal cases are handled by extremely badly implemented "AI" systems, and so on and so on.

I feel we're slowly approaching a phase where we could get that "sci-fi" like "personal assistant" that maybe can have access to all of our data, and can "act" in our best interests. Maybe when our data is considered, the "AI" assistant could have a say. Maybe it gets to decide when and how to share stuff. Maybe it gets access to the underlying algorithms and decides when and where to "agree" or "accept" our data being used for the average / median interest.

It seems plenty of systems already use that data in day-to-day life. I'm looking forward to having systems where the good parts can continue while the concerning parts (control over data, control over algorithms) is somehow limited. It's probably too much for a human, but I can see how we could all have "agents" that follow some of our interests and have a say in the process. It certainly seems closer than "sci-fi", closer than two decades ago.