[cuttysnark]

jQuery got the Nickelback treatment. Except I really did enjoy using jQuery, and only moved on because "the industry" was and I didn't want to be left behind.

Looking back now, we all were lead down a path of needless complexity. Even thought I'd never use jQuery or jQueryUI professionally now, I still have a voice in the back of my mind that will pop up every now and then to say "well, if it's not gonna be complex or long-lived..." when something calls for a quick UI.

I feel this way about Bootstrap and maybe now am old enough that I don't care if it upsets other developers.

[bilbo0s]

I don't know?

Something like bootstrap seems so ludicrously non-complex that I don't think anyone competent should be getting upset with you for its use.

I mean, OK fine, go ahead and fanboy/girl Vue/React/(Needless complexity api) whatever. But really? They get upset looking through code for an HTML5/bootstrap page? Something's not right there. That's when you start suspecting they can only work in one api, and likely don't even really understand css.

[cuttysnark]

> Something's not right there.

I agree. To me, TWBS is just a collection of intuitive components that have been tested vigorously. They also function in a way that way people are used to because of their lineage. That they can be styled in a way that makes them not look stock...ices the cakes.

[watwut]

Bootstrap and Vue/React are orthogonal. People who use react use it with some css framework.

Afaik bootstrap is getting replaced by tailwind. Which is actually pleasure to work with.