Agreed. And depending on other circumstances the EV might save time overall vs an ICE. I only use a public charger around 3 or 4 times a year, and I've had to "wait" exactly 0 minutes since I ate and used the bathroom during the charging time.
I save at least 5+ mins a week refuelling compared to my Diesel. That's half a day a year. The automated pre-heating saves me time defrosting in the winter. Probably another hour or more saved every year. All for around 1/4 of the running cost.
I'm (genuinely) interested in knowing which EV you own that:
* allows doing 500 km of highway with a single 20m charge stop
* I can afford
I perused simulators from the various manufacturers. In highway conditions, the only vehicles with autonomy approaching that are using 60kWh batteries, which immediately gets them out of the "I can afford" category.
Assuming I'm lucky enough to find a used one with a 40kWh battery that the owner gets me a huge rebate on for some reason, and, again, using the simulators from the constructor (which are probably too optimistic for real life), the autonomy is around 150km.
From the https://fr.chargemap.com/mobile/planner, I would need 3 stops, and 2h30 hours of _charge_ for the specific trip I have in mind - which brings it from 4h20m to 7h.
To be clear: if I was looking for a "second car" to run errands and drive around home, I would rush for a second-hand small car with a 25-40 kWh battery, and I know that it would be plenty enough for 99% of my usage.
The few outlier trips that I have to be ready to take on the spot are still not a thing with an EV, though. And I'm not going to stockpile cars and choose the one that matches my outfit every morning ;)
I suppose it will get better when the Chinese have done their thing - my point is, I stopped counting on western car manufacturers a long time ago.
They could have gotten their act together 25 to 30 years ago. They'll go the way of the dinosaurs.
thebruce87m|1 year ago
I save at least 5+ mins a week refuelling compared to my Diesel. That's half a day a year. The automated pre-heating saves me time defrosting in the winter. Probably another hour or more saved every year. All for around 1/4 of the running cost.
phtrivier|1 year ago
* allows doing 500 km of highway with a single 20m charge stop
* I can afford
I perused simulators from the various manufacturers. In highway conditions, the only vehicles with autonomy approaching that are using 60kWh batteries, which immediately gets them out of the "I can afford" category.
Assuming I'm lucky enough to find a used one with a 40kWh battery that the owner gets me a huge rebate on for some reason, and, again, using the simulators from the constructor (which are probably too optimistic for real life), the autonomy is around 150km.
From the https://fr.chargemap.com/mobile/planner, I would need 3 stops, and 2h30 hours of _charge_ for the specific trip I have in mind - which brings it from 4h20m to 7h.
To be clear: if I was looking for a "second car" to run errands and drive around home, I would rush for a second-hand small car with a 25-40 kWh battery, and I know that it would be plenty enough for 99% of my usage.
The few outlier trips that I have to be ready to take on the spot are still not a thing with an EV, though. And I'm not going to stockpile cars and choose the one that matches my outfit every morning ;)
I suppose it will get better when the Chinese have done their thing - my point is, I stopped counting on western car manufacturers a long time ago.
They could have gotten their act together 25 to 30 years ago. They'll go the way of the dinosaurs.
aembleton|1 year ago
Not a single 20 minutes stop, but a 16-minute stop and a 32-minute stop [2]
1. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202411015855192
2. https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=2707aa8e-702e-4d2...
bryanlarsen|1 year ago
And sure the sticker price is higher, but sticker is only 1/3rd the cost of a vehicle. In TCO terms, an EV is cheaper.