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intoamplitudes | 1 year ago

Transparent coup d'etat attempt rumored to happen for months. The only option when the mouse is cornered. Approval rating in the <10% range, Japan whispering in his ear and pulling the puppet strings, crazy selfish wife abusing state resources, it is almost comically predictable if not for how serious it is. North Korea is always the convenient excuse... only hope Westerners don't get fooled by the rhetoric. Guy digging his own grave, only hope Koreans get off their complacent asses and take this guy down quickly. World cannot afford more instability.

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NalNezumi|1 year ago

>Japan whispering in his ear and pulling the puppet strings

I'm curious if you have some sources for this? I'm not that familiar with SK politics and I'm obviously biased since almost all info about SK I either get from English/Japanese sources.

Afaik he was pretty dovish towards Japan during his election, which goes against the decades long tradition of tit-for-tat during election between SK&Japan since "looking tough to the neighbor" win votes. I wasn't aware of any "Japan whispering in his ear" level embezzlement. He seems just more pro US, closer ties with Japan rather than "balance things between China/US-JP"

decafninja|1 year ago

The conservatives tend to blame the liberals for being North Korean sympathizers. The liberals tend to blame the conservatives for being Japanese sellouts. They use these angles to inflame public opinion against the other party and distract from other issues.

I’d say anyone seriously thinking Japan has bought out the conservatives is just as foolish as someone that seriously thinks the liberals are North Korean spies.

That said, there is a contingent of South Koreans that genuinely consider Japan a mortal military threat just biding their time and waiting to attack Korea. And that North Korea is just a merely misguided misunderstood brother that is absolutely harmless despite their sabre rattling.

ExoticPearTree|1 year ago

> crazy selfish wife abusing state resources

Seems to be something that kind of happens when someone in Korea rises to the top of political power. Remember the former president that was pretty much ousted for corruption a few years back? She had a confidant that would pull her strings.

coldtea|1 year ago

Western politicians might pretend to take it at face value, as it's useful to fuel the foreign threat narratives, and help elites use similar excuses here too.

jbm|1 year ago

> Japan whispering in his ear

Anyone who has dealt with Japanese bureaucracy and government at large is stifling a giggle at this idea.

jldugger|1 year ago

Plus, their brand new prime minister called a snap election and damn near lost himself the job when his party came out worse than he started.

ken47|1 year ago

> rumored to happen for months

Source?

intoamplitudes|1 year ago

Sept 2, 2024 Defense minister nominee rebukes rumors about gov't plan to declare martial law https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.amp.asp?newsIdx=381...

Sept 3, 2024 Lee’s raising of suspicions of martial law plans isn’t baseless — just look back to 2017 https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1...

Sept 4, 2024 [News analysis] Why is Korea’s Democratic Party talking about martial law? https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1...

Sept 4, 2024 [ED] No room for martial law talk https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.amp.asp?newsIdx=381...

Sept 5, 2024 DPK's martial law claim backfires due to lack of evidence https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.amp.asp?newsIdx=381...

Sept 5, 2024 Martial law equals coup-d’etat: What would it mean for South Korea? https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.amp.asp?newsIdx=381...

petesergeant|1 year ago

> only hope Westerners don't get fooled by the rhetoric

This AP article is written very unsympathetically towards him

tankenmate|1 year ago

Maybe declaring martial law when there isn't a violent overthrow of the government in progress doesn't really garner much sympathy.

notahacker|1 year ago

I don't think the AP is the sector of the West the OP is worried might turn sympathetic towards him if he makes the right noises and does outreach to the right people.

hammock|1 year ago

What if it was all part of the plan?

willvarfar|1 year ago

Are the army likely to back him?

petesergeant|1 year ago

Unclear if it’s better if they do or they don’t. On one hand it’s clearly against the interests of the country to support him, on the other hand democracies absolutely don’t want the military taking any domestic political role

oldpersonintx|1 year ago

and what of the massive US military presence?