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cdiamand | 1 year ago

Can someone familiar with South Korean politics give us some context for what is happening here?

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dtquad|1 year ago

1. Very low trust in politicians after it was revealed former president Park Geun-hye was secretly a crypto-Christian cult member despite claiming to be atheist.

2. South Korea has a bizarre large-scale "gender war" going on that extents into mainstream society. Imagine the Western online MRA/redpill/incel vs. radfem circles but as core identities in national politics.

For some reason a high-trust society has decided to become an ultra-low-trust society where trust is being eradicated all the way down to the nuclear family.

hyeonwho4|1 year ago

Re: 2. The "gender war" is greatly exaggerated and much astroturfed. Marriage rates have been dropping for decades because Koreans in their 20s and 30s cannot maintain the economic expectations of their parents. (Korean norms require a condo before marriage, when the going rate for condos is 30x median salary. Young people usually start their careers at below-median salaries.)

The way the "gender war" appeared was that Yoon was more popular among men, and this was reported in the international news, then Korean news reporters reported on the international news, legitimizing the story of a gender gap.

This primed Korean journalists to look for further signs of conflict between the genders, which were then amplified out of proportion by international journalists looking for a story. Korean journalists see the international stories as more trustworthy, and now they report as if there is a gender war.

There is a heavy selection bias among journalists to look for spicy gender stories, where the actual participants are the fringe of an online "movement". The Korean press club doesn't seem to understand or account for these biases. In real life there isn't much "war".

wruza|1 year ago

crypto-Christian cult

Had to look that up and wasn’t disappointed…

mschuster91|1 year ago

> Imagine the Western online MRA/redpill/incel vs. radfem circles but as core identities in national politics.

I have zero idea about SK, but ... "woke vs not woke" has become very much a core identity part in Western politics. The last US election has proven that, and what's going on here in Germany especially with Markus Söder isn't funny any more either [1], we got elections looming in about three months.

[1] https://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2024-11/markus-soede...

HPsquared|1 year ago

Koreans don't do things by halves.

monkeyfun|1 year ago

Is there anywhere good I could read about that "gender war"? I've heard about it before, but usually only narrativized as one-sided (e.g. discussing feminist policies)

readthenotes1|1 year ago

It was the religious thing and not all the other scandals that caused the low trust? That's fascinating!

madaxe_again|1 year ago

Corruption probe, a weird cult, and now apparently a coup d’etat in the making.