[oscillonoscope]

I'm not entirely convinced that ego-less is even a better way of doing things. Sure, the ego can go overboard but it also gives a sense of drive and direction. It isn't just the bad stuff. Without it, there's nobody taking ownership of the design or it's just designed by an apathetic committee.

[worksonmymach]

Taking ownership is very much egoless! You are doing that for the team.

Ego would be making sure you got "your" sprint tickets done, did no code reviews, skipped the retro. I think few people do that but they will if Goodhart's Law happens.

[itishappy]

Pride and passion can exist without ego. I view this as appreciating things for what they are, not who they belong to.

[oscillonoscope]

I don't really agree with that unless you redefine the ego as being synonymous with 'being egotistical' or 'sinful pride'. You need a sense of self to feel pride and something more than base passion.

For practical purposes, if you don't acknowledge how good and bad behaviors can both spring from the same base emotions/thought processes then it's harder to grow out of the bad behaviors. You need to be able to reframe how the ego interacts with your work, not just try to kill it off.

[MrMcCall]

Yes, and not thinking that one is better than anyone else. We are all equal, no matter how much better we are than another, with respect to either some job skill or even the spiritual path. Dunning-Kruger's true-experts are better than the slackers, but we must be humble to achieve that and then not be an ahole about our achievements.

It's a tricky business, being a human being, with its very many pitfalls.

[kookamamie]

You can never remove ego from the equation, completely. People are placed on different levels of organizations, with different incentives and agendas.

Thus, it's never a balanced setup where everyone's happily working towards a shared vision in equilibrium.

There's always someone having a larger incentive than the other person, overriding their decisions in a haste, in order to reach a bonus objective.

Welcome to the real World driven by capitalism.