[FrameworkFred]

It looks like the author has hit some pretty serious snags along the way and is a lot more understanding than I might be under similar circumstances.

My experience, having just bought a framework 13 with AMD internals a couple of months ago (and letting them build it for me), has been a purely flawless one with ubuntu 24.04. Everything just works and I love being able to swap the ports and the ethernet adapter as needed. The fan rarely makes a sound at all and it's blazing fast compared to the similarly spec'd system 76 darter pro it replaced (though it was a few years old). Battery life is "fine" but not amazing but charging is pretty quick, so it's still a bit of an improvement over the darter.

[mananaysiempre]

> Everything just works

Keyboard wakeup doesn’t—it’s due to the same problem as TFA describes for the 16 except for the 13 the Framework folks have submitted (the moral equivalent of) TFA’s fix to the kernel. Apparently firmware 3.06, currently in beta, is expected to finally solve the problem on the AMD 13.

S3 is unsupported (thanks AMD), and s0ix battery drain is higher than I’d like (IIRC like half a week in suspend with 64GB RAM).

Out of the box, the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth connectivity is also subpar, but that’s an issue common to the MediaTek cards AMD pushes on laptop manufacturers nowadays, not specific to Framework. (And it’s fixed by a $25 component swap.)

[FrameworkFred]

I'll admit that I'm not well versed in the different shades of suspend...I had to look up S3 and it definitely eats more battery than I'd like when it's suspended. With that said, I've only ever had two laptops that would actually wake up after a suspend and one of those only did that after it was resurrected after a 5 year hiatus. So my expectations were low enough that I was thrilled that it worked at all. I look forward to the fix in the firmware (which seems to update via standard apt upgrade efforts...also pretty cool). I haven't hit any problems with wifi and bluetooth...both work well for me.

[codedokode]

I didn't understand why the laptop was waking up by itself. Was the lid too close to the buttons and it was pressing it?

> S3 is unsupported (thanks AMD)

My AMD laptop (not a Framework) seems to have no issues with sleeping though (although I don't know what power state it is in).

[2OEH8eoCRo0]

They chose to use an unsupported OS.

https://frame.work/linux

[catdog]

That's not the main problem. They chose Debian Stable which by design is not and never was the best choice for bleeding edge hardware.

[anotherhue]

I'm in the NixOS camp, and while there have been a few fiddly bits the community support has been excellent. It and Arch have a following among more skilled users so I imagine that factors in.

s/skilled/willing if not happy to fart around in their os config rather than doing actual work/