11 years ago I sold 100 BTC, and made pretty good money.
With that said, the more I think about BTC, the less sense it makes to me. Exceedingly few people actually use it for anything practical. The “store of value” functionality has completely eclipsed the practical use that Bitcoin maxis were preaching back then.
Since 2016-2017, it seems like people have bought it for the sole purpose of seeing someone else pay more for it.
It will never become some “universal” currency that overtakes national fiats. Right now it seems like people are only hoping for governments to hoard up BTC, to moon the price and provide exit liquidity for early holders - which IMO would be reckless spending.
It is the ultimate make-believe asset.
Edit: also, when I ran the numbers, I figured a realistic max value for 1 BTC would be 500k-1M. So the big money has been made, imo.
> The “store of value” functionality has completely eclipsed the practical use that Bitcoin maxis were preaching back then.
Right, but that use case could be enough to see the price continue to increase. Gold is also generally used as a store of value. The average person hasn't been going into a store using gold to buy things in the US in more than 100 years. But gold's market cap (~ $17T) is still greater than Bitcoin (~$2T). So, if Bitcoin is a better store of value than gold (debatable), then the price still has plenty of room to grow.
Big B Bitcoin as it exists today, you're 100% right. The fire burned too hot. But little b bitcoin, peer to peer electronic cash, that has a place in the world and it will do just fine given time. It's something we desperately need in an age of global networking. Bitcoin isn't it, and I don't see a ton of utility for web3 or whatever, but there are projects slowly chipping away making progress to actual internet money that can be used widely without unreasonable expense.
Few people use it for trade because few people accept it. Right now there are more people campaigning to have bitcoin not be used than there are campaigning to use it.
Perhaps that will change one day, perhaps it won't. Unless the price keeps going up greater than 20% per year perpetually(no exponential growth is perpetual) the electricity use will eventually drop. The people who are angry about the idea of it will eventually not care enough to be angry.
>* I figured a realistic max value for 1 BTC would be 500k-1M. So the big money has been made, imo.*
I agree that the big money has been made. If it did actually replace money it might be worth a few million. That's not going to happen anytime soon though, even if things went well for bitcoin it would take decades more to reach that point. It's a high risk investment with a possible yield of 10x to 100x in a timeframe that you could probably get a better return from something far more secure.
Sure you could make heaps buying and selling at just the right time, but trading on volatility can be done in any market, and usually results in people losing all their money to the inside traders.
Bitcoin Cash is what I wanted Bitcoin to become... cheap transactions, inclusive to all at the on chain layer. Unfortunately, that fork did not gain majority following.
No competent government should be allowing the continued use of Bitcoin. Proof of Work is climate Arson, its burning tremendous amounts of energy for the shittiest database you could imagine at a time when we desperately need to reduce Carbon emissions.
[+] [-] TrackerFF|1 year ago|reply
With that said, the more I think about BTC, the less sense it makes to me. Exceedingly few people actually use it for anything practical. The “store of value” functionality has completely eclipsed the practical use that Bitcoin maxis were preaching back then.
Since 2016-2017, it seems like people have bought it for the sole purpose of seeing someone else pay more for it.
It will never become some “universal” currency that overtakes national fiats. Right now it seems like people are only hoping for governments to hoard up BTC, to moon the price and provide exit liquidity for early holders - which IMO would be reckless spending.
It is the ultimate make-believe asset.
Edit: also, when I ran the numbers, I figured a realistic max value for 1 BTC would be 500k-1M. So the big money has been made, imo.
[+] [-] WoodenChair|1 year ago|reply
Right, but that use case could be enough to see the price continue to increase. Gold is also generally used as a store of value. The average person hasn't been going into a store using gold to buy things in the US in more than 100 years. But gold's market cap (~ $17T) is still greater than Bitcoin (~$2T). So, if Bitcoin is a better store of value than gold (debatable), then the price still has plenty of room to grow.
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[+] [-] Lerc|1 year ago|reply
Perhaps that will change one day, perhaps it won't. Unless the price keeps going up greater than 20% per year perpetually(no exponential growth is perpetual) the electricity use will eventually drop. The people who are angry about the idea of it will eventually not care enough to be angry.
>* I figured a realistic max value for 1 BTC would be 500k-1M. So the big money has been made, imo.*
I agree that the big money has been made. If it did actually replace money it might be worth a few million. That's not going to happen anytime soon though, even if things went well for bitcoin it would take decades more to reach that point. It's a high risk investment with a possible yield of 10x to 100x in a timeframe that you could probably get a better return from something far more secure.
Sure you could make heaps buying and selling at just the right time, but trading on volatility can be done in any market, and usually results in people losing all their money to the inside traders.
[+] [-] throw373859|1 year ago|reply
All sorts of thugs use bitcoin. 14 years ago it was gamblers and drug users. Now it is for people who want to steal billions.
Like when London real estate was used by Russian oligarchy 20 years ago.
Value is there, it is just sad state of things.
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