[vundercind]

Another extremely popular person. Who violated that norm on camera and had it broadcast all over the place. And remained extremely popular.

What norm?

[tptacek]

I don't think you understand me. I'm not saying people are taking to fainting couches over norms violations. They're reacting to people like Taylor Lorenz literally calling for the assassination of people by name. In my case, past that, for Lorenz doing so based on a comically flawed understanding of what her target was doing.

[vundercind]

I’m saying not-cheerleading-murder isn’t exactly a firm norm here anymore. Not even among the elites.