[larme]

It indicates how much does google search suck nowadays.

[mvavassori]

I know that everybody here likes to bash on Google but i tried ddg, bing, qwant, brave search, all the other niche ones (searx, swisscows, etc...), and i found Google to be still better than all of them, especially for technical stuff.

[petra]

The kagi experience isn't great, limited number of results, for example. I can't say I get a feeling they are much better than Google day to day.

But the fact you can use kagi to filter out links with ads/trackers inside them,means sometimes great results rise up, and that can be very valuable.

[cmrdporcupine]

I've been paying for Kagi for the last few months and I guess the compliment I could give is: I have it on some machines but not the other and I don't really notice? when I'm on the kagi one other than ... no ads and no ads-ranked results

Which, frankly, I'm willing to pay for. I think it's a good product.

[pie420]

product made by monopoly company worth $2T is better than small startups with less than 30 employees. shocker. the reason people are supporting Kagi is because we see the trend with google quality and we want alternatives, even if they are currently worse. it's called activist consumerism. it's why we supported AMD when they were at the brink of bankruptcy, and now look at their CPUs and look at intel.

[monkmartinez]

I am 100% in agreement, between SearXNG and Google I can find darn near anything. Kagi was ok, it seems to really prefer reddit for the types of things I was searching for. I was also super conscious about the number of searches I had left in my plan. F-that. I type random stuff into the omnibar all day. Leaving Kagi as just enough friction to go to kagi, type a search, etc. that I didn't want to deal with it.

[newsclues]

google was better years ago. Google search quality regressed. id pay for the old google search.

[Xelbair]

it doesn't change the fact that google of today is worse than google of 10-15 years ago.

[EasyMark]

Why not start page? It’s google search results without all the junk

[IgorPartola]

To be precise, it might indicate how much Google sucks specifically for the HN audience. I have never seen Kagi mentioned outside of HN. Not that I disagree that Google has ruined the web lately but let’s not assume that this means Kagi will eat their lunch just yet.

[move-on-by]

I’m a happy Kagi user. I set it up on my wife’s phone… she was relieved when the trial was over and I set Google back up. I’m starting to think this line of thought is more accurate than just ‘Google sucks now’. It depends on your demographic. I think Google has become so optimized for people who click on ads that they have alienated people who do not.

I never click on ads. Back when I used Google, if I searched for something specific and saw both the ad and the search result I wanted- I just scrolled down to the search result. My wife would just click on the ad, and I think most people do. Beyond that specific example, she clicks on other types of ads as well. For me, I just see them as invasive and hostile. I’m not the type of user Google cares anything about, and maybe that’s why I perceive a drop in quality results.

[netdevphoenix]

Monopolies are not easy to defeat. Look at how bad IE was and how much better FF and Chrome were. Both were free and yet IE still dominated for a very long time.

[cosmosgenius]

Kagi is not mentioned true, but there are always talks w.r.t using site, intitle, time (before 2018 eg) filter to improve search. That indirectly can be considered as "having low quality" from one POV.

[dvngnt_]

it probably wont because it's a paid service.

most normal people have been have been shifting their search habits. tiktok (banned soon), youtube, reddit (though many use google to search reddit since their native search isn't good)