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ValentinA23 | 1 year ago

"The truth is that the Americans will eventually make themselves hated by everyone, even by their most unconditional allies. All the manipulations the Americans imagine are contradicted by events."

— Charles de Gaulle

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Aloisius|1 year ago

Your quote is way out of context.

"See, even in NATO, which the Americans built with their own hands, which is their thing, have you seen that? The NATO parliamentarians declare that the Multilateral Force is nothing but a big joke. The truth is that the Americans will end up being hated by everyone. Even by their most unconditional allies. The Multilateral Force would be one more trick. All the tricks that the Americans imagine are denied by events. It is more and more true. Look at their so-called détente."

— Charles de Gaulle, November 6, 1963,

HideousKojima|1 year ago

France under de Gaulle is hardly a bastion of freedom and liberal democracy, I have a hard time taking anything he said or did post-WW2 seriously

georgeecollins|1 year ago

By "France under de Gaulle" do you mean the French Fifth Republic which was proposed by de Gaulle? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Fifth_Republic

Hint: That's the current government of France to this day. To me, that is a liberal democracy.

I would recommend reading "When France Fell" for more context on de Gaulle. You are talking about a complicated figure. I also would point out that he faced attempts on his life for getting France out of the former colony of Algeria.

stracer|1 year ago

> All the manipulations the Americans imagine are contradicted by events.

What does this mean?

ValentinA23|1 year ago

WMD in Iraq is an instance of this.

rs999gti|1 year ago

> Americans will eventually make themselves hated by everyone

Who's everyone?

coliveira|1 year ago

And now you know why they need to spend so much money to buy and influence media outlets all over the world. Tip: it is not because media is such a profitable industry...