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sjm | 1 year ago

Anyone else find this stuff extremely distasteful? "Disrupting" creativity and art feels like it goes against our humanity.

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quenix|1 year ago

The past few years' innovation in AI has roughly been split into two camps for me.

LLMs -- Awesome and useful. Disruptive, and somewhat dangerous, but probably more good than harm if we do it right.

'Generative art' (i.e. music generation, image generation, video generation) -- Why? Just why?

The 'art' is always good enough to trick most humans at a glance but clearly fake, plastic, and soulless when you look a bit closer. It has instilled somewhat of a paranoia in me when browsing images and genuinely worsened my experience consuming art on the internet overall. I've just recently found out that a jazz mix I found on YouTube and thought was pretty neat is fully AI generated, and the same happens when I browse niche artstyles on Instagram. Don't get me started on what this Sora release will do...

It changed my relationship consuming art online in general. When I see something that looks cool on the surface, my reaction is adversarial, one of suspicion. If it's recent, I default to assuming the piece is AI, and most of the time I don't have time or effort to sleuth the creator down and check. It's only been like a year, and it's already exhausting.

No one asked for AI art. I don't understand why corporations keep pushing it so much.

huehehue|1 year ago

There's this FinTech ad on the NYC subway right now. I can't remember the company, but the entire ad is just a picture of a guitar and some text.

Anyway, the guitar is AI generated, and it's really bad. There are 5 strings, which morph into 6 at the headstock. There's a trem bar jammed under the pickguard, somehow. There's a randomly placed blob on the guitar that is supposed to be a knob/button, but clearly is not. The pickups are visually distorted.

It's repulsive. You're trying to sell me on something, why would you put so little effort into your advertising? Why would you not just...take a picture of a real guitar? I so badly want to cover it up.

imiric|1 year ago

I don't understand why you see a distinction between models that generate text, and those that generate images, video or audio. They're all digital formats, and the technology itself is fairly agnostic about what it's actually generating.

Can't text also be considered art? There's as much art in poetry, lyrics, novels, scripts, etc. as in other forms of media.

The thing is that the generative tech is out of the bag, and there's no going back. So we'll have to endure the negative effects along with the positive.

l33tbro|1 year ago

Wish it was just generative AI for me.

You don't have the same paranoia with LLM? So often I find myself getting a third of the way into reading an article or blog post and think: "wait a minute...".

LLM tone is so specific and unrealistic that it completely disengages me as a reader.

PartiallyTyped|1 year ago

I have found a channel that curates and cleans some AI generated music. I really enjoy it, it's nothing I heard before, it's unique, distinct, and devoid of copyright.

WXLCKNO|1 year ago

I understand your take but it's only going to get better and incredibly fast.

I'm a huge film nerd and I can only dream of a future where I could use these type of tools (but more advanced) to create short films about ideas I've had.

It's very exciting to me

ronsor|1 year ago

I'm glad someone else said this. Hopefully we can get rid of that terrible disruptive camera too.

tim333|1 year ago

There's some of that but it produces some cool stuff too. I mean you have these new virtual worlds like this that didn't exist before https://youtu.be/y_4Kv_Xy7vs?t=13

The video there is kind of a combination of human design and AI which produces something beyond that which either would come up with on their own.

ganzuul|1 year ago

It is like an attempt to do psychic battle over the meaning of "disruption".

moralestapia|1 year ago

"And then everyone clapped ..."

There's nothing wrong with technology going forward and this doesn't go against "creativity and art", to the contrary, it will enhance it.

TheAlchemist|1 year ago

That's the optimistic version and in theory I would agree - it will be a great enhancer of creativity for some poeple.

But mostly it will end up like the smartphones - we carry more computing power in our pockets that was used to send man to the moon, and instead of taking advantage of it to do great things, we are glued to this small screen several hours / day scrolling social medias nonsense. It's just human nature.