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theflyingelvis | 1 year ago

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mherkender|1 year ago

Defamation is a crime, the fact that his listeners harassed people because of that defamation makes it even worse.

rcxdude|1 year ago

This. A core part of defamation cases (especially from a damages point of view), is showing that the false statements caused harm, and that's generally by way of those statements influncing other's beliefs and actions (apart from harassment, this could also take the form of people being unwilling to work with/provide a service to the defamed party because of said statements).

(Note that it's important that the statements are false, and depending on some details, that either they were known to be false at the time, or that there was a reckless disregard to the truth, i.e. no effort was made to determine if they were true or false. If you state something that is true, or is false but you had good reason to believe is true, or that is merely an opinion, then it's not defamation even if someone harassess them or worse)

lenerdenator|1 year ago

Jones was never technically tried for anything. He refused to participate in the trial in a meaningful manner and had a default judgment against him instead.

burnished|1 year ago

Oh won't someone rid me of this troublesome priest

mdp2021|1 year ago

It's an immediate consequence.

bdcravens|1 year ago

He is being held responsible for personally defaming the Sandy Hook victims and families.

theflyingelvis|1 year ago

Thank you. Can you elaborate? Wouldn’t jones stating garbage like the shooting didn’t happen etc. be opinion? How were his statements defamation ? I missed where he defamed the families as I don’t listen to his shows.

n144q|1 year ago

I don't think anything can ever happen in the US -- that's part of the First Amendment.

I do think there should be some other way that would lead to Alex Jones lose his audience. But I don't see anything happening yet.

Trump and Elon are not nearly as bad as Alex Jones (arguably), and lots of people don't like them, but they have an audience, lots of other people like them, support them and send money to them. If they are not held responsible for things they say, if Trump is aquitted of January 6th, I don't think people should expect much to happen.