Some extra notes: Ruby Video is a Rails application backed by SQLite, its frontend powered by Hotwire. It is open source on GitHub. I’d consider the repo a great resource for anyone looking to learn more about how modern Rails apps are built.
So first of all its a very cool project even tho i don't code ruby.
But in case the author of the page is in here, please read the following:
Some years ago i had a similar idea, just instead of ruby-cons i went for defcon videos. I build a page that indexed all defcon talks and even tried to categorize them in terms of topics and difficulty. Added a nice search, and put it out as "defcon.video". It didn't take google long to message me and tell me i had to take it down because its actually forbidden to host an alternative search index if you are using the youtube API. You are not allowed to store the results of youtube API (longer than 24hours if i remember) and as stated before not allowed to offer an alternate search.
While you might argue: why didn't you just state that you don't use the api to grab the data and shutoff the token usage : well because google is not really known to be friendly and i expected them to just close down my whole developer account if i don't follow.
So - in case not all the videos are hand inserted (and even then they might come at you) google definatly will reach out to you and try to force you down. Back when it happend to me i didn't have the time and patience to fight them back so defcon.video was shutdown.
> well because google is not really known to be friendly and i expected them to just close down my whole developer account if i don't follow.
and if their algorithm is in a bad mood that day, they'll shut down your personal account(s) as well, and possibly adjacent accounts. Hope you don't rely on personal email or Google Photos or Android if that happens.
This nuke-somebodys-life-from-orbit capability of such a gigantic company is IMHO one of the best arguments for regulatory limits on company size/scope. That's obviously easier said than done and comes with a whole column of cons, but the power imbalance is so unbelievably great and the reach so deep that in some cases I'd rather be on the wrong side of the state than on the wrong side of Google.
We are just embedding the video using vlite.js and the YouTube Video ID (which is just embedding an official iframe in the end). So there isn't really an account to "shut down", unless I'm missing something.
I am currently working on building a curated collection of YouTube channels, with custom search index. Thank you for sharing this, I guess I can't continue. It's a shame.
Really nice to see a deployed modern Rails site. I just recently decided to try Rails 8 out for a side-project of mine (Paranoia RPG virtual table top) and had a generally pleasant experience.
The biggest pain point was the lack of Grade A documentation for the best way to use ActionCable and Turbo – information is spread out between Rails Guides, API docs, and then the Turbo / Stimulus documentation. The actual API docs do a poor job of explaining basic concepts like "streamables", and I kept wondering if I was doing things the "right"/idiomatic way.
Still, as always, ActiveRecord is my biggest draw for Rails, and the new first-class Sqlite integrations are a huge draw for me. I've yet to find an ORM that allows me to be anywhere near as productive.
>>Really nice to see a deployed modern Rails site.
Yes. And it is also a showcase what I want for 90-95% of the web. Useful as an example next time we have yet another MPA vs SPA or SSR vs CSR argument. It doesn't need to be a complex SPA. Although I must admit the response time isn't perfect even with Cloudflare.
I was tickled to scroll down and see my own stupid avatar. Claimed my profile and wrote a note.
Thank you so much to everyone in the Ruby community. I spoke at conferences around the world for 13 years, made a ton of friends, and officially retired from speaking at Rails World in Toronto back in September. Some of the best people I've ever met, and the community transformed my life and career.
Was lucky to be at the conference when you gave it and it's stuck in my head since. When I'm struggling for motivation or my side projects seem to be just too big I give it another watch.
What a great resource, thanks to whoever put this together.
To anyone who enjoys contorting the language to make it do weird things for fun, quines, and those sort of things, I really recommend Tomoya Ishida's talk at RubyKaigi 2024. It's in Japanese, but there are subtitles, and the slides speak for themselves. Some of the more whimsical uses of Ruby I've seen in a while. Keyword to peak your interest: animated quines.
This looks awesome and the site looks like it’s custom built. For anyone looking for a tool I’ve been using Pyro (https://www.pyro.app) to collect startup pitch videos (https://video.heystartup.com)
Still sad that the one ruby conference I spoke at — Steel City Ruby way back in 2014 — left behind no video recordings due to a mixup between the conference organizers and the venue staff.
I wish there were more sites like this, devoted to particular topics that proved to be valuable enough to be presented in a public talk. I currently use YouTube for this a lot (like most people, I guess). But sadly, count(views) is not always correlated to quality.
Is it just me, or is Ruby experiencing a renaissance of sorts? There has been a bunch of positive press, and the community seems more active and vibrant than ever?
I used to work primarily in Rails from Rails 3 and 4, then stopped to work with Go, then finally Elixir since 2016. For a long while there Rails was left behind with the crazy growth of clientside javascript and react. It was destined to become a BackboneJS/EmberJS of sorts, a once big thing but now dead and legacy.
With Rails 8 they really knocked it out of the park. Now there are real compelling reasons to use Rails 8. The job system, the auth generator, the rich text inputs, the file uploads, shit -- they have so much just baked in and omakase'd to death. It's quite an achievement. And it's beautiful to use. You get a phoenix liveview "feel" without breaking out of Rails vibes. If that makes sense.
I'm using it for a pet project of mine and have a really smooth experience leaving Elixir dayjob and jumping into Rails.
What people used to like about Rails, those haven't changed and it is also much better than before. ( Would still want more on Auth )
Hotwire, with Turbo. It has been improved and used in production for quite some time. This also got boosted a lot with JS front end fatigue.
Performance. Even by default Ruby 3.4 is quite a lot faster than 2.x era. But with YJIT it is in some cases nearly double and ~30-50% faster in Rails.
Whatever performance issues there used to be? We will have 256 Core Server in next 12 months, or 512 CPU Core in Dual Socket Setup. CPU Core is getting cheaper and faster.
I always like to say Ruby is the only Top programming language that doesn't have a big tech backer behind it. And it only recently found one. Shopify could now single handedly sustain the whole Ruby Rails ecosystem. It also means the whole ecosystem gets a lot more resources than it used to. ( YJIT is from Shopify )
It's not just you. From one of the main contributors to Ruby Video[0]:
2024 is the year with the most Ruby talks in a single year, ever!
This is the first time we beat the previous all-time record from 2015!
Ruby is so back!
The Python page loads instantly, while the Ruby page makes several requests before fully loading. Ironically, it seems to be utilizing a rails feature called "turbo streams".
[+] [-] rossta|1 year ago|reply
https://github.com/adrienpoly/rubyvideo
https://hotwired.dev/
[+] [-] voodooEntity|1 year ago|reply
But in case the author of the page is in here, please read the following:
Some years ago i had a similar idea, just instead of ruby-cons i went for defcon videos. I build a page that indexed all defcon talks and even tried to categorize them in terms of topics and difficulty. Added a nice search, and put it out as "defcon.video". It didn't take google long to message me and tell me i had to take it down because its actually forbidden to host an alternative search index if you are using the youtube API. You are not allowed to store the results of youtube API (longer than 24hours if i remember) and as stated before not allowed to offer an alternate search.
While you might argue: why didn't you just state that you don't use the api to grab the data and shutoff the token usage : well because google is not really known to be friendly and i expected them to just close down my whole developer account if i don't follow.
So - in case not all the videos are hand inserted (and even then they might come at you) google definatly will reach out to you and try to force you down. Back when it happend to me i didn't have the time and patience to fight them back so defcon.video was shutdown.
Best of luck tho
[+] [-] freedomben|1 year ago|reply
and if their algorithm is in a bad mood that day, they'll shut down your personal account(s) as well, and possibly adjacent accounts. Hope you don't rely on personal email or Google Photos or Android if that happens.
This nuke-somebodys-life-from-orbit capability of such a gigantic company is IMHO one of the best arguments for regulatory limits on company size/scope. That's obviously easier said than done and comes with a whole column of cons, but the power imbalance is so unbelievably great and the reach so deep that in some cases I'd rather be on the wrong side of the state than on the wrong side of Google.
[+] [-] marcoroth|1 year ago|reply
We are just embedding the video using vlite.js and the YouTube Video ID (which is just embedding an official iframe in the end). So there isn't really an account to "shut down", unless I'm missing something.
[+] [-] freetonik|1 year ago|reply
I am currently working on building a curated collection of YouTube channels, with custom search index. Thank you for sharing this, I guess I can't continue. It's a shame.
[+] [-] 0cf8612b2e1e|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] pugio|1 year ago|reply
The biggest pain point was the lack of Grade A documentation for the best way to use ActionCable and Turbo – information is spread out between Rails Guides, API docs, and then the Turbo / Stimulus documentation. The actual API docs do a poor job of explaining basic concepts like "streamables", and I kept wondering if I was doing things the "right"/idiomatic way.
Still, as always, ActiveRecord is my biggest draw for Rails, and the new first-class Sqlite integrations are a huge draw for me. I've yet to find an ORM that allows me to be anywhere near as productive.
[+] [-] ksec|1 year ago|reply
Edit: Search is nice as well.
>>Really nice to see a deployed modern Rails site.
Yes. And it is also a showcase what I want for 90-95% of the web. Useful as an example next time we have yet another MPA vs SPA or SSR vs CSR argument. It doesn't need to be a complex SPA. Although I must admit the response time isn't perfect even with Cloudflare.
[+] [-] revskill|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] searls|1 year ago|reply
Thank you so much to everyone in the Ruby community. I spoke at conferences around the world for 13 years, made a ton of friends, and officially retired from speaking at Rails World in Toronto back in September. Some of the best people I've ever met, and the community transformed my life and career.
[+] [-] tmcdonald|1 year ago|reply
https://testdouble.com/insights/the-selfish-programmer
Was lucky to be at the conference when you gave it and it's stuck in my head since. When I'm struggling for motivation or my side projects seem to be just too big I give it another watch.
[+] [-] ksec|1 year ago|reply
That is sad to hear. Any reason why ?
[+] [-] pilaf|1 year ago|reply
To anyone who enjoys contorting the language to make it do weird things for fun, quines, and those sort of things, I really recommend Tomoya Ishida's talk at RubyKaigi 2024. It's in Japanese, but there are subtitles, and the slides speak for themselves. Some of the more whimsical uses of Ruby I've seen in a while. Keyword to peak your interest: animated quines.
https://www.rubyvideo.dev/talks/keynote-writing-weird-code
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6QGq5uGhgU
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[+] [-] compootr|1 year ago|reply
1: notwithstanding storage degradation, but I trust myself more than this platform
[+] [-] gregates|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] marcoroth|1 year ago|reply
But hey, maybe you get to speak at another Ruby conference in 2025!
[+] [-] ciberado|1 year ago|reply
I wish there were more sites like this, devoted to particular topics that proved to be valuable enough to be presented in a public talk. I currently use YouTube for this a lot (like most people, I guess). But sadly, count(views) is not always correlated to quality.
[+] [-] kemiller|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] sergiotapia|1 year ago|reply
With Rails 8 they really knocked it out of the park. Now there are real compelling reasons to use Rails 8. The job system, the auth generator, the rich text inputs, the file uploads, shit -- they have so much just baked in and omakase'd to death. It's quite an achievement. And it's beautiful to use. You get a phoenix liveview "feel" without breaking out of Rails vibes. If that makes sense.
I'm using it for a pet project of mine and have a really smooth experience leaving Elixir dayjob and jumping into Rails.
[+] [-] dismalaf|1 year ago|reply
And on top of that Ruby itself has seen improvements from concurrency and parallelism to straight up speed gains, JITs, etc...
[+] [-] ksec|1 year ago|reply
Hotwire, with Turbo. It has been improved and used in production for quite some time. This also got boosted a lot with JS front end fatigue.
Performance. Even by default Ruby 3.4 is quite a lot faster than 2.x era. But with YJIT it is in some cases nearly double and ~30-50% faster in Rails.
Whatever performance issues there used to be? We will have 256 Core Server in next 12 months, or 512 CPU Core in Dual Socket Setup. CPU Core is getting cheaper and faster.
I always like to say Ruby is the only Top programming language that doesn't have a big tech backer behind it. And it only recently found one. Shopify could now single handedly sustain the whole Ruby Rails ecosystem. It also means the whole ecosystem gets a lot more resources than it used to. ( YJIT is from Shopify )
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[+] [-] yboulkaid|1 year ago|reply
2024 is the year with the most Ruby talks in a single year, ever! This is the first time we beat the previous all-time record from 2015! Ruby is so back!
[0]: https://ruby.social/@marcoroth/113665539397868492
[+] [-] izik|1 year ago|reply
[1] https://pyvideo.org/
[+] [-] emmanueloga_|1 year ago|reply
* Open https://pyvideo.org/speakers.html and scroll down to the bottom.
* Open https://www.rubyvideo.dev/speakers and do the same thing.
The Python page loads instantly, while the Ruby page makes several requests before fully loading. Ironically, it seems to be utilizing a rails feature called "turbo streams".
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